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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TapTheMic on 2024-11-02 06:20:00+00:00.


I'm a long time follower of UFOs and throughout all of that time the consensus has been that the objects we see in the skies are craft which travelers are inside of.

Keep in mind, I don't reject the idea that this is true for many cases. What I'm saying is we might be missing something obvious about the things we are seeing in our skies.

We assume everything in the universe exists within specific rules. Those rules are typically related to ourselves and life we've encountered on this planet. That doesn't mean these rules are universally applicable and it certainly doesn't determine how Darwinism played out in other parts of the universe.

To get to my point:

What if some of these craft are actually entities? What if we're assuming they're craft controlled by something else when these things might actually be the entities themselves?

  • They behave intelligently.
  • They seem to collect data by interacting with the environment.
  • There's now data to suggest at least some live in the oceans.
  • If the whistleblowers are to be believed, they contain "non-human biological material"

That last one is a very specific type of phrasing and I think people read into it more than they should.

People assume this means that bodies were recovered. I actually think the statement may be exactly what was said.

Imagine something akin to a jellyfish or a clam. It is bioluminescent, it can levitate through some advanced natural ability to manipulate its own gravitational field. That said, it has a hard external shell which we perceive as being something akin to a craft or ship.

The idea that nature couldn't produce something which looks metallic or man-made is disproved on our own planet.

One of these things crashes and what we end up with is an exoskeleton which has cracked and leaked biological material. That material would read as "non-human biologics" without evidence of a body. It's basically the alien equivalent of an egg.

This would actually make the idea of alien crashes more believable IMO. Considering sometimes animals just drop dead, the idea that we have these colossal cosmic organisms flying in and out of our atmosphere makes more sense in certain ways than if these things were all manned craft.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TheVikingReaper on 2024-11-02 04:10:04+00:00.

Original Title: I’ve been hearing a strange humming through my entire house at night for the last 3 weeks. Had a clear sky and decided to take a picture of this constilation that has always caught my eye, and I photographed something else on accident.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/AnbuGuardian on 2024-11-02 01:10:48+00:00.


Apologies if this has been posted before but the post contains 3 different angles. Of note is an actual projectile sound but curiously the projectile or UAP orb flys upward after the collision.

If some sort of gravitational manipulation is at play the power of repulsion on this must be insane. Thoughts?

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/ForeignSherbert1775 on 2024-11-01 22:15:21+00:00.


In these clips, David Grusch talks about a foreign intelligence report regarding the alleged U.S. crash retrieval program that he read during his time with the UAP task force. He states that this intelligence report was stolen by the U.S and had a chain of custody. Grusch claims that the people who confirmed the details within this report to him were former directors of 'certain agencies'.

Transcript:

“…and there's some other people who were bringing me documents to evaluate. And I'll never forget, I had a, I’ll just say, ‘stolen by the US’, an intelligence assessment from a certain foreign adversary, discussing the US reverse engineering program. And I was...and that was actually another like...what the f***. And so I had an adversary also confirmed this program literally because of exfiltrated intelligence. ” (Rogan,41m).

”I read some extremely interesting foreign intelligence, that was derived by clandestine human sources overseas, espousing….and this is something they were noting about the US… the US has a retrieval program, a reverse engineering program and I'm like, whoa. ” (edit) "...and I had a chain of custody on how we got that information. And I thought maybe this is passage material, we've got to be very careful, passage material would be like a form of disinformation used to try to trick a case officer to develop a relationship with an asset. So I was like, well, wait a minute? Is this true? If a certain adversary of ours thinks this is true, and one thing led to another and I did talk to extremely extremely senior officials both former directors of certain agencies I've had the privilege of having a relationship with, and I talked to them about this issue and they confirmed those details." (Tucker,9m)

Sources:

Joe Rogan "Episode #2065"

Tucker Carlson "Tucker Carlson Interviews Episode 51"

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/TommyShelbyPFB on 2024-11-01 11:13:08+00:00.

Original Title: Every High-Level Official Who’s Gone on Record Saying UAP Are Indeed Real: John Ratcliffe, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, John Brennan, Chuck Schumer, Christopher Mellon, Martin Heinrich, Mitt Romney, Bill Nelson, Kirsten Gillibrand, David Grusch, Mark Milley, H.R. McMaster.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/1337Layman1337 on 2024-11-01 09:40:56+00:00.


Hi there, I have a question for all you UAP/Alien nuts like myself. I can understand whistleblowers may not yet be able to release videos/photographs of the craft and bodies because their storage location may be classified, but why would whistleblowers not be able to draw pictures of the crafts and bodies theyve seen during the november hearings? if they were able to, it would increase media spectacle, get the ball moving forward even faster and may even lead to exceptionally increased scientific curiosity

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Having interviewed Lue Elizondo last week, John aims for a balanced pair of interviews by talking to everyone’s favourite Sean Kirkpatrick. Bear in mind that JMG is not a UFOlogist and is somewhat neutral on the UAP issue, although he is very open minded and great on general science for cosmology, astronomy and the search for alien life and alien technology.

Prepare yourself to get irritated by Kirkpatrick. Personally I think he’s Edward Condon II, put in place to delay disclosure, similar to the 1968 Condon report that concluded ‘nothing to see here’. Still, it’s good to hear his arguments as these were can assume represent the best the anti-disclosure crowd have when it comes to trying to shut down disclosure.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Special_Hunt_6304 on 2024-10-31 19:37:36+00:00.


Here is the link to the recently released UAPTF slide:

First step in my analysis was to match the text size and took font to be Arial:

Then I tried fitting in various possible text for 1. explanation and 3. explanation,

Then this below image was the one for potential content. Which were:

  1. ARVs or Interdimensional Crafts
  2. Experimental Military Technology

Also above here it is Unknown Weather or other Natural Phenomena in 2. point and not in 1. point, highlighting the seriousness of this issue. Could 1. point be for adversarial technology or higher intelligence. What might be the priority order?

But for the above I did not include adversarial technologies to be as a potential explanations.

Then I also analyzed the potential number of reports analyzed and last so many years and found out it to be a Two-Digit Number. It is not a three digit number since it was slightly flowing and spacing wasn't correct.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/UniversalHerbalist on 2024-10-31 20:54:26+00:00.


As someone outside of the US, can someone help explain the difference between the Congress hearing and the Senate Hearing. Is one more important or hold more weight than the other?

Can we expect anything different from the senate? is this a big deal or not really?

Ta.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/PyroIsSpai on 2024-10-31 19:35:26+00:00.

Original Title: In 2019, after the New York Times UFO article, the journal of the Congressionally founded United States National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine wrote of Luis Elizondo: "cannot be overstated the importance of Mr. Elizondo’s portfolio to national security."


When Luis Elizondo was at the Pentagon in the late 2000s, he was asked to take over security for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). He had experience in technology protection, having previously worked with Boeing and its Apache Longbow helicopter, and also with Raytheon and some of its cruise missile technology. A new aerospace-related assignment made sense.

But AATIP was different than anything he had worked on before. It was created in 2007 to study “anomalous aerospace threats,” a euphemism for UFOs. His job, he explained to me, was “making sure the Russians, the Chinese, our foreign adversaries, weren’t penetrating [AATIP] or developing some sort of deception campaign.” He cut himself off at this point. “I have to be careful, because we can get into classified stuff pretty quick.” After a brief pause, he continued: “Anytime you have a game-changing, advanced technology, your adversaries will want to know what it is, because it could be used against us. So there’s this huge effort try to figure out what the other side has.”

Evidently, there were security issues with the new UFO program that had to be addressed. “I knew there were counterintelligence problems that needed to be fixed,” Elizondo said. “I’m kind of like the plumber that needs to fix leaks.” He eventually took over the program and insists that he kept it afloat until he left in 2017, although funding officially dried up in 2012.

And:

In his annual performance evaluation for his job at the US Department of Defense (DOD), Luis Elizondo, a career military intelligence officer now in his late 40s, was lauded in 2016 for his ability to manage a highly classified program “in a manner that protects US national security interests on a global scale.” The office Elizondo oversaw had, among other things, “identified and neutralized 6 insider threats” and “co-authored 4 national-level policies involving covert action.” His work performance was rated as “exemplary.” The evaluator gushed that it “cannot be overstated the importance of Mr. Elizondo’s portfolio to national security.”

Elizondo was working on these things in 2016, you know: UFOs.

The evaluator gushed that it “cannot be overstated the importance of Mr. Elizondo’s portfolio to national security.”

I'm not sure why any of us act like this hasn't been out in the open since 2019, because it has been.

Elizondo is not an aerospace engineer or expert, or audio/video analysis expert.

He is a professional military security and intelligence agent.

Source:

Which is the journal of the United States National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine:

The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM), also known as the National Academies, is a congressionally chartered organization that serves as the collective scientific national academy of the United States. The name is used interchangeably in two senses: (1) as an umbrella term or parent organization for its three sub-divisions that operate as quasi-independent honorific learned society member organizations known as the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), the National Academy of Engineering (NAE), and the National Academy of Medicine (NAM); and (2) as the brand for studies and reports issued by the unified operating arm of the three academies originally known as the National Research Council (NRC). The National Academies also serve as public policy advisors, research institutes, think tanks, and public administration consultants on issues of public importance or on request by the government.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/ScruffyChimp on 2024-10-31 19:21:39+00:00.


The world is one week away from one of the most highly charged and divisive elections in US history. Many people are on edge. We're two weeks away from a potentially historic UAP hearing and about three weeks away from Sol's next Symposium.

I'd argue that the next four weeks are prime time for:

  • Misinformation & disinformation
  • Discrediting whistleblowers, witnesses and advocates
  • Discouraging whistleblowers, witnesses and advocates
  • Influencing online discourse
  • Distraction
  • Demotivating everyone
  • Killing momentum

etc.

I encourage everyone to be on guard and keep an open mind!

Be careful who you trust, consider all angles, don't jump to conclusions and look out for bandwagons.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/onlyaseeker on 2024-10-31 17:48:40+00:00.


🔸Trailer:

🔸About:

A woman claims to have been abducted from her bedroom in Manhattan. This docuseries explores whether it was an elaborate hoax- or proof of alien life.

The series investigates one woman's claims that she was taken by aliens from her Manhattan apartment in 1989.

In 1989, New York City resident Linda Napolitano said she was abducted by aliens outside her high-rise apartment. The occurrence, known as the Brooklyn Bridge Abduction, was reportedly witnessed by over 20 people and became highly publicized. But did it really happen, or was it all a hoax? From Vivienne Perry (Meet Me in the Bathroom) and series director Daniel Vernon (Nail Bomber: Manhunt), The Manhattan Alien Abduction investigates the case and features an interview with Napolitano.

What happens in The Manhattan Alien Abduction?

The docuseries retraces the Brooklyn Bridge Abduction, which allegedly happened to a woman named Linda Napolitano in November 1989, when she was taken from her apartment in Lower Manhattan. She reported the incident to UFO researcher Budd Hopkins, who later claimed to have found over two dozen witnesses who saw Napolitano that night floating above her building. Hopkins, who used hypnosis techniques to help Napolitano recover memories of the alleged abduction, was married at the time to filmmaker Carol Rainey, now a vocal doubter of the incident. The series chronicles Napolitano’s relationship with Rainey and Hopkins, the case’s journey into the mainstream press, and the widespread public skepticism surrounding it.

Is The Manhattan Alien Abduction based on a true story?

Yes. The series investigates the alleged 1989 alien abduction of Linda Napolitano.

Where does The Manhattan Alien Abduction take place?

The events of the docuseries take place in New York City.

🔸Wikipedia:

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So we’ve seen gimbal, go fast and flir - yes they were amazing videos and kicked off for many people this whole renewed interest, especially when the New York times put out the article sending the topic into the mainstream.

However, how can it be possible with todays technology - cameras in phones, viral dissemination via social media and the like that we STILL do not have a smoking gun, not one clear photograph or video of a UAP or NHI. There are clearly lots of people experiencing all sorts of encounters but when captured on film it’s always fuzzy or open to being debunked whether real or otherwise. I’m asking g where is that picture or video which is clear, verifiable (ie has multiple angles or witnesses) proving beyond doubt that these things are real.

These things are meant to be moving around everywhere and I mean globally, so even if the US government was able to somehow quash every single event, well that’s only one government out of several hundred, not to mention the probably at least 4 billion citizens globally with cell phones capable of posting this stuff online before any government had a chance to blink.

Which leads me to one of two conclusions:

1: they are real and are completely in control of the narrative, meaning disclosure will only happen if and when they chose regardless of how hard the community pushes.

2: they are not real and the whole thing is either made up or has another explanation which we will find out in time.

And lastly, is there such thing as beyond doubt proof and what would that look like?

For me personally, I think I’m done for now with the whole thing and maybe I’ll check back in a year or two, if there’s nothing new or “beyond doubt” proof at that stage - I think I’d lose interest.

I’m kind of hoping for this because on the flip side, if that beyond doubt evidence does come out then wholly crap - that’s world changing and even somewhat (actually extremely) unsettling.

Thoughts?

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A great channel I’ve watched many times - has great guests. Looks like it’s finally touching on the UAP phenomena. These discussions continue to get bigger, it’s only a matter of time until we see more. The interview is very compelling, and he makes strong points about disclosing the right way for the safety of whistleblowers.

Here is the YouTube link:

Never thought I’d post here but it was just uploaded recently and haven’t seen it floating around Reddit yet.

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Original Title: The Magenta Project - A Docuseries and then some about the UAP/UFO secrecy beginning with the 1933 Magenta, Italy crash-retrieval by Mussolini, researched in secret by the Italy-Germany Axis powers, and backchanneled to the US with the help of the Vatican via the OSS before they set up the CIA


The Magenta Project — A Docuseries and then some about the UAP/UFO secrecy beginning with the 1933 Magenta, Italy crash-retrieval by Mussolini, researched in secret by the Italy-Germany Axis powers, and backchanneled to the US with the help of the Vatican via the OSS before they set up the CIA

I’ve gone deep on this for a bit with a few co-researchers. It’s been brain-breaking. You can donate here to the documentary project. I’d like to make a documentary and then some, write a book, etc.

Here's a short supercut about the Magenta UFO/UAP crash-retrieval that Grusch had cleared by the Pentagon when he came forward last year:

Here's a long supercut:

I had a great conversation with producers about the project this morning, but funding is always an issue. I’m happy to share my vision at the moment for this.

THE MAGENTA PROJECT:

The Story of the 1933 Italy UFO/UAP Crash-Recovery That Shaped the 20th Century

On July 26, 2023, following a blockbuster interview between journalist Ross Coulthart and former US intelligence officer-turned-UFO/UAP whistleblower David Grusch in early June, the United States Congress held its first-ever historic hearing on the UFO/UAP topic since 1966. During the hearing, Grusch, alongside US Navy pilots David Fravor and Ryan Graves, testified about the existence of UFOs/UAP and a non-human intelligence that the US military and intelligence agencies have been aware of since the 1940s.

In that initial interview with Ross Coulthart, among other explosive testimony by Grusch regarding multiple UAP and their “pilots” and “biologics” having been recovered for decades in secret by the US government, he referenced one case that he was cleared by the Pentagon to speak about via their Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review process, or DOPSR, was that of a craft recovered in Magenta, Italy in 1933, just outside of Milan. In his statements, he went on to talk about how the crash-retrieval was studied by the Italians under Mussolini and then the Germans before the Vatican took control of it and ensured that it got into the hands of the United States towards the end of WWII.

The story of the crash-recovery in Italy 1933 came as a shock even to those who’d been paying deep attention to the UFO subject for years. Ever since the sighting in June 1947 by pilot Kenneth Arnold flying near Mt Rainier added the phrase “flying saucer” to our lexicon, the topic has been one of keen fascination for the public around the world. But for as much as stories like Roswell and Area 51 are plenty familiar, and movies like Close Encounters of the Third Kind and E.T. are among the most successful of all time, the case of the Magenta craft had never been really talked about in circles well-familiar with the UFO/UAP subject. Grusch testified that documents from that era had been recently declassified, essentially begging researchers to start digging in to piece this narrative together.

In 1996, Roberto Pinotti, one of Italy’s leading UFO/UAP researchers, anonymously received three previously-unseen telegram messages in the mail that were sent directly by Mussolini on June 13, 1933. Pinotti had these documents studied, and in 2000, he presented them to the public as having been authenticated. Those documents state, in short:

BY PERSONAL ORDER OF THE DUCE ABSOLUTE SILENCE IS ORDERED ON PRESUMED LANDING ON NATIONAL SOIL OF UNKNOWN AIRCRAFT -DIRECTOR SPECIAL AFFAIRS

The first crash-retrieval of the 20th century went on to influence society in shocking ways that involve the Vatican, members of the Bush family as well as James Angelton and Allen Dulles, who were all instrumental figures in the OSS who eventually developed its successor the CIA largely to keep the UFO topic secret. THE MAGENTA PROJECT will unveil the deepest, darkest corruption story in modern human history, with most of the research already completed and ready to be rolled out in a digestible fashion.

THE MAGENTA PROJECT: A DEEPER DIVE

OUR CAST OF CHARACTERS

Guglielmo Marconi

Nobel Price-winning Italian scientist who invented radio in 1897, won the Nobel in 1909 with Karl Ferdinand Braun “in recognition of their contributions to the development of wireless telegraphy.” When the Magenta UFO/UAP is recovered by Mussolini, Marconi is tasked with studying as part of the secret RS33, or Special Research group 33, by another Italian Nobel Prize-winning scientist, Enrico Fermi, famous for coining the Fermi Paradox, essentially asking “where is everybody?” in light of the vastness of the Universe.

His work laid the foundation for the development of radio, television, and all modern wireless communication systems.[10]

Marconi was also an entrepreneur, businessman, and founder of The Wireless Telegraph & Signal Company in the United Kingdom in 1897 (which became the Marconi Company). In 1929, Marconi was ennobled as a Marchese (marquis) by King Victor Emmanuel III of Italy, and, in 1931, he set up Vatican Radio for Pope Pius XI.

In 1934, he tested his “death ray,” the original electro-magnetic pulse weapon that was quoted as having shut down the car of Mussolini’s wife and many others one afternoon on a busy road and was touted as being able to stop aircraft. This “death ray” made worldwide news, and Italian dictator Benito Mussolini asked Marconi for the device, but at the behest of the Vatican, the deeply Catholic Marconi did not want it used for nefarious means and refused to hand it over.

Benito Mussolini

Prime Minister of Italy from 1922–1945. Dictator and founder of fascism. According to David Grusch, the Magenta UAP crash-retrieval was a major reason for Italy aligning with Germany in the Axis power. The day the Magenta craft was recovered, issued a memo ordering complete silence on the retrieval. Initially believed the craft was of German origin and brought the Germans in who said it wasn’t.

Galeazzo Ciano

Son-in-law and second-in-command to Mussolini, serving as Foreign Minister from 1936–1943, when In July 1943, Ciano was among the members of the Grand Council of Fascism that forced Mussolini’s ousting and subsequent arrest. Ciano proceeded to flee to Germany but was arrested and handed over to Mussolini’s new regime based in Salò, the Italian Social Republic. Mussolini ordered Ciano’s death, and in January 1944 he was executed by firing squad.[3]

Ciano wrote and left behind a diary[4] that has been used as a source by several historians, including William Shirer in his The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (1960)[5] and in the four-hour HBO documentary-drama Mussolini and I (1985).

According to the CIA, the Ciano Diaries were considered the most important item at the end of WWII. After Ciano’s execution, his wife, Edda Ciano, smuggled his diaries out of Italy and delivered them to OSS member and future CIA head Allen Dulles in Switzerland in exchange for safe passage. The diaries are considered to contain the most insight regarding the relationship between Italy and Germany during WWII. The missing pages of these diaries are considered one of the last pieces of this UFO/UAP crash-retrieval puzzle.

Edda Ciano

Daughter of Mussolini and wife of Galeazzo Ciano. Became a spy for both Germany and the US. In July 1939, she was depicted on the cover of Time in a feature entitled “Lady of the Axis”. Played a major role in WWII. Re...


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