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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/phr99 on 2024-12-15 19:59:59+00:00.

Original Title: Panic mode: A member of the gang of 8 is now getting involved trying to defuse the situation. Jim Hymes repeatedly says its "not the martians, not the chinese, iranians". He suggests its teenagers (like his daughters) with Walmart drones. Wasnt he involved in blocking the UAP amendment?

Update

Ryan Graves has stated that if these drones are not an adversary (as jim himes says they arent, see below) then they are probably exotic UAP

Jim Himes interview

Heres the interview:

He mentioned 3 of 4 times that its not the martians. He lumps that together with the options of chinese and iranians.

Small quote from the interview:

Jim Himes: Now let me say something that i know with confidence: its not the iranians, its not the chinese, they arent martians. I know thats very unsatisfying for people who want a hollywood movie out of this

The killing of the UAP amendment

His name sounds familiar, i think he is one of the people involved in killing the UAP amendment last year. The other guy was Mike Turner. Someone correct me if im mistaken.

Panic mode

The fact that he feels the need to appear on TV and comment on the situation, specifically mentioning (mocking) "the martians" is quite telling in my opinion.

I think he saw the public opinion was slowly moving towards the UAP direction, and this interview is an attempt to put that idea back into the box. So he goes on TV and ridicules the UAP angle by calling it "the martians" repeatedly, and trivialise the whole idea that something strange is going on.

The gang of eight

If im not mistaken, the gang of eight is the group of people that are supposed to have access to ALL classified information. Even the "legacy program" for example would legally be required to be known to them. Of course we know of the allegations that this program has been illegally withheld from such oversight.

The “Gang of Eight” refers to a group of eight elected officials who are responsible for reviewing and receiving sensitive intelligence information.

The group plays a critical role in overseeing the intelligence activities of the United States government, including the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and other intelligence agencies.

They are given access to highly classified information — called a gang of eight briefing — and are responsible for ensuring that the intelligence community is operating within the bounds of the law and in accordance with the Constitution.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Wansyth on 2024-12-15 19:48:59+00:00.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/y000rx on 2024-12-15 19:12:21+00:00.

The fact that congress will soon be getting a classified briefing on the situation tells me we can likely narrow it down to the following:

1. These drones are owned and operated by our military, and they're searching for nukes far and wide.
2. These drones are owned and operated by our military, and they're collecting data for some type of impending environmental catastrophe (that they can't prevent).
3. They truly don't know what they are, but they know for certain it's not human.

Sure, there are other possibilities and I'm not pretending to know what's really happening. But whatever is happening...isn't good. There's no reason for the extended secrecy and hiding of information from state and federal agencies if the military is simply testing out new devices. You can't just fly over neighborhoods, utilities, and military installations without informing the state when and where these activities will occur.

And if congress comes out of that meeting still saying "we still just don't know anything"...then I don't know who in their right mind can sit comfortably in their home while this continues to go on night after night without a SINGLE piece of information from our own government.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/phr99 on 2024-12-15 18:43:54+00:00.

Original Title: Ryan Graves: "For years people have reported UAP with capabilities beyond our state of the art. Ive not seen videos that these drones have such exotic capabilities, but their whole behaviour doesnt leave much room for other options, if its not a foreign adversary." Fox interviewer: "unbelievable.."

Update

a member of the gang of 8 has now publicly said the drones are not from an adversary. According to graves (see below), exotic UAP is then probably what they are.

Ryan Graves interview

In this interview Ryan Graves on FOX he does a quick exercise of deductive reasoning and arrives at either foreign adversary, or UAP.

Ryan Graves: I cannot believe that this is our own government acting in such confusion. God help us if so. Same for commercial contractors, there is zero benefit, all risk, for operating these things so close to the ground, especially if its some type of classified equipment.

Ryan Graves: That leaves foreign adversary or "something else", and weve heard from the Pentagon that there is no mothership of the coast that is launching these items.

Ryan Graves: We have some of the most sophisticated radar systems on the easter seaboard. We should, with great certainty, know exactly where these objects are, where they're going, and where they're setting down, if they are.

Ryan Graves: So either these things have the ability to counter those technologies, or we're simply lying about whats happening. I dont have the answer.

Martha MacCallum: So you're saying... foreign entity... you ruled out a couple of options... foreign entity or something else. What falls into the "something else" category?

Ryan Graves: Well for a number of years people have been reporting UAP, unknown objects of unknown intent that seem to exhibit performance characteristics that are beyond our state of the art.

Ryan Graves: Now i havent seen videos on social media that have publicly been released that would give me a high level of confidence that there are these exotic capabilities being exhibited. But the whole behaviour in general doesnt give much room for other options, if its not a foreign adversary.

Martha MacCallum: "Unbelievable..."

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/themizanrahman on 2024-12-15 15:30:48+00:00.

Original Title: Why do all UFO/UAP videos suck? I saw something the other night, thought it was a UFO, and started recording. Turned out it was just a plane—but I realized how hard it is to film something like that under pressure. Now I get why all UAP videos are bad

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Mo3 on 2024-12-15 14:43:55+00:00.

Hypothetically speaking, if this is actually NHI slowly introducing itself, they're doing it near perfectly, and seemingly knowing what they're up against. I've been observing comments here and a lot on other social media and it's quite amusing how even regular folks react to the usual BS.

1. Starting off in the UK, only then moving to the US to shut down all the "why does it only happen in the US" propaganda, then showing over Germany to really drive the point home and make even uninformed people recognize the argument as invalid

2. Just as the government begins its usual deny - distract - disinform cycle and people start talking about landing on the white house lawn, they start to show up over DC and in ever increasing, slowly more advanced to humanly impossible seemingly ways e.g. no heat signature, forcing the governments hand

3. Showing up in appearance that resembles too closely mechanical vehicles, in ways that cannot be holograms, to immediately shut out the Project Bluebeam disinformation psyop, in locations with a lot of normal residents and public cameras

Like, even regular Joe on Tiktok and Karen on Facebook are now calling project bluebeam psychotic, informing other users it started in the UK, and contemplating things like "Well, if it's aliens...". There's a very obvious uptick in everyday people coming to terms with the possibility, in a way that seems so natural and almost curious, I wouldn't have believed it to be possible just a year ago. Even if it's not (or not all of it) NHI, progress is happening.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/No-Reception-4249 on 2024-12-15 11:36:20+00:00.

Either the government can't control the legal airspace in our country or the military is doing some kind of secret ops that they don't want us to know about.

Look guys if we push the idea that the government and even our military are too incompetent to manage civilian airspace then they will surely say something then.

The last thing our military or governmening bodies want is to feel like the people have lost faith in them to do their job correctly.

Its bad, but we already do a pretty good job of making the US the laughing stock of the world (in some regards). It paints an even worse picture if another adversary country realizes that our airspace is free to navigate by whatever means and that our government or military won't do anything about it.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Crazy_Cockroach6669 on 2024-12-15 13:14:15+00:00.

We are focused on drones from the start, which are very likely human made with wings and FAA lights. Seems stupid that aliens will mimick our planes for cloaking as they would have way more advanced tech for cloaking. The shapeshifting theory is far-streched.

What we should focus on is what these human-made drones are looking for. The videos where drones are interacting with orange orbs are where we should focus. People should look for orbs when they see drones and film it. This will lead us to the real thing.

Lastly, the drill theory is pertinent if these orb videos are not genuine. If its only these drones then the whole event is not intresting to me.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Bleedmaster on 2024-12-15 05:42:26+00:00.

Original Title: WTF am I seeing in this Basburry Park Boardwalk Live Surf Cam in NJ??!... (It's like some light thing that appears out of nowhere maybe 1 or 2 feet above the ground at around 19 seconds in that then disappears as quick as it appeared)

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/ExcuseBitter7203 on 2024-12-15 06:13:01+00:00.

Last night I witnessed an incident with these "drones" in North Haledon NJ while parked on top of a mountain overlooking the reservoir.

Dozens of these things were moving around and 3 of what I can only describe as orbs were interacting with them. The orbs then shot away like shooting stars. The "drones" went dark and were practically invisible against the night sky. I was on the phone with my mother at the time and she has never heard me so frightened before.

I am a logical person, and I am an educated person (not that it matters, but I thought relevant considering) I have experience in aviation equipment and I have 3 actual drones I use for surveying contracts. My wife has her pilots license.

I cannot "debunk" what I witnessed and I don't have video proof. It was very quick. This is my off season for my work and I have a lot of time on my hands right now. I have the means to travel anywhere in the state at any time of day/night.

I don't have FLIR equipment as of now but my wife has access to a plane. We are going to plot the hotspots. She will fly and I will document with video. Please submit any questions down below. If we are able we will bring FLIR to test the thermal theory. Any other advice on what to test please share here. This will be costly but we feel it's necessary at this point for our own peace of mind. We're not getting any answers from officials only more questions.

We don't post much on reddit but we are frequent visitors. I will update this post with a link to our thread containing our findings. I will not be sharing specifics regarding our departure.

What is happening here is extraordinary and we intend to document and research from a vantage point we haven't seen yet. We are aware this isn't a complete throwaway account. We share. Don't believe the officials, they are lying.