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Vivaldi (and Edge) have this absolutely wonderful capability that allows me to split one tab into two or four at the same time.

At least in my workflow it's quite useful because I usually work with several tabs open and sometimes two related tabs (say, a document I'm reading and a document I'm replying to according to that one), I know that I can perfectly have another Firefox window open next to it and fulfill that function, but I wish I could do it directly from Firefox.

Does anyone know of an add-on that fulfills this purpose? Or maybe a dev who is developing it?

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The minute Firefox adds this and tab stacking, im gonna switch to it and never look back (although I would also miss workspaces). For now only Vivaldi has the features I need

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I really enjoy the Firefox tree view add-on for managing tabs.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I prefer Sidebery for vertical tabs. Very customizable.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People suggest that but I tried and to me it does come close to tab stacking to each their own I suppose

[–] Reborn2966@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago

tree style tab for the win

[–] sxt@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ever since they added tab stacking it's become vital to how I use browsers. Idk if I could switch to something else without it having a way to approximate that flow.

[–] duckington@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

By tab stacking you mean that feature where you can create those collapsible tab groups, right?

[–] doc@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's different. Instead of grouped tabs that expand within the same row of tabs, tab stacks show the group in a second row of tabs. Works great if you have a lot of tabs that tend to shrink in width to much to be usable.

[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Floorp, a browser based on Firefox, has Workspaces I believe (along a LOT of other stuff). Might be worth checking out.

Their website is in Japanese, but the GitHub page is in English. I’m sleepy and too lazy to link stuff right now, sorry.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If they have stacking tabs, I'm in

[–] boerbiet@feddit.nl 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is the feature I miss most in Firefox, aside from tab stacking. I used Opera (before Blink days) and later Vivaldi for a long time and tehese features almost made me go back. Me not wanting to use a Chromium based browser was the only thing stronger than that.

I've given up hope on ever getting these features in Firefox by now.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Completely agree.

[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I switched from Vivaldi to Librewolf a while back and I found Panorama Tab Groups and I think it is superior. YMMV

[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think that's the same thing.

Tab tiling means having two or more tabs open at once, so that both can be worked on at the same time.

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is there also something in Firefox that works like Vivaldi workspaces ? Between that, tiling and tab stacking, I really have a hard time using anything else than Vivaldi at work.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not exactly what you are looking for but Sidebery has a feature called Snapshots that allow you to save a group of tabs in their current state to open them later.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

That's more of an alternative to vivaldi sessions, not workspaces

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago

Interesting. I'll need to test it to see how it exactly behaves.

[–] nix@merv.news 1 points 2 years ago

Idk about an extension in firefox but there’s a firefox fork than includes workspaces by default called floorp https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/releases/tag/v11.1.0

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

There are tab group manager addons. One of them is Simple Tab Groups

[–] reflex@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I was looking into this because of the whole WEI thing and Vivaldi being part of the Chromium ecosystem—I found a tiling plugin for the 'fox, but visually, it's not seamless like Vivaldi's.

Each tile is basically its own window complete with the tab space up top.

[–] doc@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

FYI, Vivaldi posted their opposition to WEI here. If website operators use the scheme then browsers not implementing it are at a loss. Hopefully every chrome based project (including edge!) is able to remove it so Chrome official is the only one where it works. Starving the approach of participants sounds like the only easy to make it fail.

[–] yesdogishere@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

the only thing google chrome is good for is destroying humanity. everything they do now has an ulterior motive to benefit themselves. just like apple and MS.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do you mention edge? Why would microsoft remove it?

[–] doc@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Edge uses pieces of Chrome, so it will probably have the same WEI stuff unless MS chooses to remove it. Given the goals of MS probably aligns more closely with Google than other browser makers I think it's likely edge will have WEI.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it really that different from having multiple windows? I don't understand why it is such a important feature that others in the thread make it out to be. Feels like I am missing some details, just curious on what the actual difference is.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Workarounds are generally bad in most software situations. Yes we could tile the windows instead of the tabs, but

  • We would have to put them all back in one window when exiting to get them saved
  • Alternatively we could use profiles, but that's a hassle on startup.
  • It probably eats up more resources
  • If we wanted to relocate our "Firefox workplace" to somewhere else (let's say another monitor) we would have to drag multiple windows.
  • On linux some window managers are just not there with tiling yet (and they might never be).
  • Also it looks bad and is a workaround to something that should just be. Hope I didn't miss anything, and you sir have a nice day :)

Wait until you discover tiling window mangers....

[–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The closest thing i know of, would be https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/ still window based, but ... at least it doenst introduce any iframe vulerabilities that way.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I'm still waiting on tab stacks before I switch completely. I'm also slightly disappointed that Vivaldi only has 2 levels of tab stacks. I would absolutely use more levels if I could.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just curious: Vivaldi devs are always very keen in telling everyone how much they modify chromium to fit their privacy standards. Are they worse than Firefox?

[–] heartfelthumburger@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 years ago

Given that part of Vivaldi is closed source, it will always be 'worse' than Firefox in terms of privacy.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

That's a very broad question. They have some advantages, like built in ad-blocker (firefox only has tracker blocker) with customizable lists, no analytics except basic user counting.

Firefox in theory has the advantage of being open source though I doubt anyone has independently taken it upon themselves to audit the code base of a whole browser, without payment.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

that would be sick

[–] murtaza64@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I would love something like this!

[–] abominabledrh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not the last time I looked (about a month ago). You can tile windows on your screen, but not tabs within a window.

[–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee -2 points 2 years ago