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Not hating on open source, just let people use what fits their expectations and needs and stop deterring them with gatekeeping :P

UX = user experience

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[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What is the benefit over the other options. All I've heard is the animations are smooth and liftoff seems smooth enough to me.

[–] THED4NIEL@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Interface, usability and features fit for my needs, that's all the benefits I need.

Features I like for my clients are

  • simplified, but decently designed UI
  • setting to show uncropped images/videos in posts and comment view
  • dark mode (adaptive colors syncing with device theme and color palette are a nice to have, but not mandatory)
  • shortcuts to formatting options in Editor (list, bold, italic, code, citation, etc.)
  • color setting to highlight OP or self in comments, links and other stuff for better information parsing
  • feature to easily minimize comment threads

Sure there are a few that satisfy some or all of these, but you have to take into account personal taste as well. No one will buy a banana with perfect nutritional values, when it tastes like tobacco.

There isn't a one-fits-all solution, just try them out and stick with what fits you best.

For now I completed the client speedrun and chose Sync, but I'll give Boost a try when it releases, since I used them before, but as soon as Infinity hits the store, I'll probably return to that, Docile Alligator created the perfect mix of simplicity, usability and visibility for me.

[–] GarytheSnail@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Familiarity. I think that tops the chart for a lot of people.

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[–] echo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

there's a lot of hate for sync out there, maybe it's just because I've been using the Reddit version for years but I really love it. i do think some people aren't aware that it's only existed for Lemmy for about 3 or 4 days. there's going to be issues this early on even if the codebase is adapted from a working app. an app this polished already is impressive to me, the pricing isn't something a fan of but I can almost guarantee it'll be evened out sooner or later

[–] Promethilaus@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use Infinity for Lemmy you wanna use something else good for I've used sync myself it's good, it's in beta and it has a couple of ads if you want them gone pay or if your that desperate then pirate or use luckypatcher it's not that hard but honestly your better off just using a different client if you don't wanna pay there is like a good 7 options now at this point and I hope these posts go away soon let people use what they fancy and stop terrorising them or ridiculing then (note = intended for idiots who think criticizing people for the Lemmy client they use is a constructive use of their time not the OP who appears to be sane 🤣)

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[–] SIGSEGV@waveform.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was excited to try Sync after all the hype (read: advertising) on Lemmy, saw that it had ads, and noped the fuck out.

You do you, but I'm not gonna use that kind of garbage. Ads don't "keep apps accessible". Instead, they poison your mind specifically and suck balls in general. The entire advertisement model is flawed, and certain kinds of people only put up with it because they don't know better.

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[–] LakesLem@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Let's be honest though, when everyone is shifting to the fediverse to avoid corporate shit, they're more likely to gravitate to other things that are free and open and be less interested in something closed and for-profit

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Nah. It's the ads and the steep cost to remove them that make it a bad choice.

Edit: here's another way to put it: Lemmy is an open-source platform run on independent instances. Your instance could use that $20 way more than Sync needs it.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DNS blockers gets rid of them. But honestly $20 is not steep for something you will use every day.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's steep compared to the other options that just don't have them and offer largely the same experience. I keep hearing that Sync is miles ahead of other apps. It just isn't.

A good app? Yes. $20 ahead of other apps that just don't have ads? No.

I edited my above comment to reflect another point, that if all these people are happy to pay $20 to remove ads from Sync, hopefully they're paying their instances to actually keep Lemmy running.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It is though, it's miles better than any free alternative I've tried. I couldn't even stand to use lemmy until sync was released because of just how bad the free alternatives were. Sync for Lemmy just works and the UX is the best available that is also highly customizable. The Sync dev is one guy who has bills to pay, he always interacts and listens to feedback and is constantly updating the app. It was the same when it was a Reddit app and it was worth paying for then as well. Why is it so hard to fathom that some people deserve to be paid for their hard work?

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not hard to fathom -- but that's not the issue. The dev decided to make an ad-supported app in an ocean of free, no-ad apps. In the views of some folks, the ads and the cost to remove them are too much. Some say it's worth it; some say it isn't. That's the beauty of free choice.

The dev could have opted to take donations if they wanted to try to recoup development costs. Frankly, they could have read the room and noted that there's a limited market. Given that there are numerous other options available (many of which are free and open source by choice), it's a hard sell to say one dev should independently be paid simply because they chose to be regardless of the market condition. This isn't a moral or ethical issue -- it's someone arbitrarily throwing a number out for payment for an app that runs on a free and open source platform.

The Sync dev is one guy who has bills to pay, he always interacts and listens to feedback and is constantly updating the app.

This describes the situation with most of the other devs working on the alternative apps. They've been extremely quick with fixes and improvements. Again, no ads in those. Sync is not the standout you seem to think it is.

Why is it so hard to fathom that some people deserve to be paid for their hard work?

If anyone should be paying for anything on Lemmy, it's for the hosting of Lemmy itself. Sync can't load anything but its ads without that. I certainly hope people follow this logic when asked to pay for their bandwidth, which is the only place it seems to actually apply.

But hey, to each their own -- if people want to pay $20 to cut the ads on one specific app, they should absolutely do that. Don't frame it as anything other than that though; it's simply disingenuous.

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[–] victron@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This whole Sync "issue" (is not an issue for me) has brought to light the way many people in the Lemmy communities feel about FOSS, free apps, ads even privacy, developers' compensation, etc. It's been interesting, still paid those $20 tho.

[–] SpeakinTelnet@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think one of the thing that irritated some people is that this time they are not paying for more, they are paying to remove a nuisance (tracking). This is something almost only seen in proprietary apps.

I've paid for a bunch of Foss and non-foss applications through the years but never for the "remove ads" model. JuiceSSH is one such example. The base app was so useful that I knew I had to get the additional functionalities and paid a fair amount for them.

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