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[–] sludge@beehaw.org 53 points 1 year ago

"Arkansas State Police policy on PIT Maneuvers allows for officers to utilize this use of force, when it's objectively reasonable based on the circumstances." right so whenever they want without accountability

[–] Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do we accept this stuff. Why are we not revolting in the streets.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re Americans. You’ve evened trained to accept this stuff as business as usual

[–] gdbjr@beehaw.org 30 points 1 year ago

It is Arkansas. They love to PIT. So many YT videos of them doing it that it is just crazy. They even have some favorite cops they love to see PIT someone.

[–] DesertRose@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago

Really hope that her trial will find her not guilty. I’d have a hard time imagining a jury would condemn a teenager for driving her mother to the hospital for an emergency.

[–] snowbell@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if the mom is okay.

[–] RickRussell_CA@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago

It's a month after the incident and the mother participated in the interview, so I'm guessing she pulled through.

But, jeez. Did they even attempt to signal her to pull over? Really wondering what the dashcam is gonna show.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am so sick of this shit. We need to stand up together to fix the policing system. But I know that kind of happened a couple of years ago and look at what little it got us.

Policing in this nation is far too corrupt to fix through "traditional" means. Abolition is the only option.

[–] jbpinkle@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

This is like Deja Vu.

Even the same state.

In the article I linked about that prior incident , note that the driver who was PIT'd did exactly what the arkansas drivers manual said to do. (If challenged I can try digging up the pdf of the manual again, but I assure you it's there.)

I have stronger opinions on this topic than I'm really going to get into here. Suffice to say, we need a change, and there needs to be more of an impact on police than a settlement a year later paid by taxpayers.

[–] entertainmeonly@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why did they not call 911 and have an ambulance come? I know medical bills are crazy right now but speeding and driving away from cops is not the way to save some money. Why where they not on the phone with 911 while driving, would the cops not have been notified of the situation by the operator in that case?

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I know medical bills are crazy right now

that, and

Why where they not on the phone with 911 while driving

because that’s not only against the law, but, in an emergency when you’re speeding to the hospital, you’re not always thinking clearly.

what I’d like to know if WTF the assh*le cops though thought it was so necessary to endanger everyone’s lives with a PIT maneuver over a speeding violation when they could have gotten the car’s tag and mailed the a ticket? sounds like roided out piggies going crazy with power and endangering lives just because they can. like always. #acab

[–] Eske@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not only that but the article says they were on Baptist Health Drive. Judging by the name of the street you'd figure they could see the hospital. Any rational officer should have been able to put together what was going on.

I don't know the exact circumstances but I've been told when my mom went into labor with me, my dad sped to the hospital and somewhere along the way ended up with a police escourt. Granted he may have called ahead to 911 and notified dispatch what was happening, and it was also over 30 years ago so maybe they don't do that anymore.

[–] entertainmeonly@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't understand. How is calling 911 while driving illegal? Hands free and speaker phones exist.

The article says quite clearly the pit maneuver was due to the frequent vehicle and pedestrian traffic near the hospital. They where endangering others. Potentially many others.

[–] snowbell@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

It was at night, and there wasn't a single other car in the video snipped they showed, that I could see at least.

[–] heartlessevil@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were already driving as the situation deteriorated. The driver (who was driving...) and the passenger (who was having a medical emergency) aren't exactly able to pull their phones out.

[–] Seathru@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

There was a third person in the back that looked perfectly capable. While I am normally the first to exclaim "NO!, Do not call the F'ing police!" This is one case they probably should have.

And absolutely not dismissing the officers actions, a car speeding towards the hospital with the hazards should be given a little more leeway until they give reason not to. Our entire police force in the US is an unfixable mess that needs to be razed and build back from the ground up.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The party of death claims another victim. When are people going to stop voting for them?

[–] entertainmeonly@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)