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[–] elfpie@beehaw.org 1 points 2 minutes ago

Reading the discussions and some of the disagreements, a correction is needed to be more precise.

Some XX people will be Assigned Male At Birth. Some XY people will be Assigned Female At Birth.

[–] crazyhotpasta@lemm.ee 3 points 39 minutes ago

Dunning-Kruger reminds me of this one president and his cabinet.

[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 6 points 6 hours ago

People who see gender as a F or M binary in 2025 are willingly ignorant to the bone.

[–] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Critically thinking now, how strong is the evidence here?

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 2 hours ago

Those are two real medical diagnoses - Swyer syndrome or XY gonadal dysgenesis for XY women (occurs in about 1:100000 women) and de la Chapelle syndrome or XX male syndrome for XX men (occurs in about 1:20000 to 1:30000 men)

Here is a NORD report on Swyer syndrome, as well as the original article on de la Chapelle syndrome: 1.https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/swyer-syndrome/ 2.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1762158/

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

A person’s biological sex usually refers to their status as female or male depending on their chromosomes, reproductive organs, and other characteristics. Chromosomes are tightly packed DNA, or molecules that contain the genetic instructions for the development and functioning of all living things. Humans typically have forty-six chromosomes. Two of those are sex chromosomes that contain instructions for the development and functioning of characteristics related to biological sex, such as reproductive organs. There are two kinds of human sex chromosomes, X and Y. Individuals identified as males tend to have one X and one Y chromosome, while those identified as females tend to have two X chromosomes. However, other people are born with other chromosome combinations, such as XXY, that lead them to develop a mix of characteristics. People who fit that description are often referred to as intersex, a category for people whose bodies do not conform with stereotypical expectations of males or females at birth.

Taken from here

Evidence seems pretty strong to me.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee -5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, and those are malformations and genetical defects that come with a lot of problems.

I don't know why people glorify them... Also, there is absolutely no way that a man born with XY magically will change it in their lifetime as the posts sugests.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This article seems to disagree. But I don't know much on the subject so I might be misunderstanding.

Also, no matter what the correct answer is, pretending the answer is binary is definitely wrong. Since it's obviously a lot more complicated.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee -5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

From the article:

"Girls born with XY chromosomes are genetically boys but for a variety of reasons – mutations in genes that determine sexual development"

And again, they don't magically become the other sex, that was already determined at birth.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, not magically, no. You're right.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee -4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, not magically and not in any other way, it is impossible to change your sex

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

You're the only one talking about this. A change can occur without any surgery. Reread the article to understand better, please.

You read the article and you even quoted it. It says how xx people can be men and how xy people can be women. Nobody said anything about any surgery or magic pill that grows a penis or whatever you're imagining.

[–] holdstrong@lemm.ee 38 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

“It’s basic biology” mfs when advanced biology

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

it is basic biology, ie biology simplified to teach a kid in middle school. the thing is sciences don't stop at middle school level. a lot of university education is about clarifying that things you learned before were simplified to the point that they're practically useless if not outright wrong.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Light travels in straight lines, next year its a wave and then its particles. What you said isso true about uni rethreading.

[–] reinei@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

Tap for spoilerYou don't technically need particles!

Meet me next week for more hot physics takes nobody needed.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair light does travel in straight lines (more or less... ignoring that nothing travels in any set or even single path something something veritasium video), its not lights fault if a straight line in physical reality doesn't always happen to match up with the geometry we invented.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

See I didnt go that far, mindboggling

[–] EnthusiasticNature94@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I agree with Dr. Jey McCreight on the science.

But for determining truth, both sides are wrong here.

Dunning-Kruger is bad, but so is credentialism and appeal to authority.

Many people with PhD's have had Dunning-Kruger. Someone else mentioned Ben Carson being great at neurosurgery, but not politics.

A PhD doesn't make you infallible.

I am saying this as someone who is taking graduate-level courses and will be pursuing my PhD. When I'm correct, it's not because my future PhD causes reality to magically conform to my opinions - it's because I rigorously looked at the evidence, logic, and formed my own conclusion that better aligns with reality.

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 35 minutes ago

Okay but what is good engagement against "follow the science" aside from "I literally DO the science"? Dr. McCreight offered a point and was met with "nuh uh" so at that point it can hardly be called an argument or debate. Do those fallacies honestly matter at that point when one refuses to engage with tangible points of discussion?

[–] Lumbardo@reddthat.com 2 points 9 hours ago

If one hasn't fallen victim to Dunning-Kruger, then they have not advanced their knowledge in any meaningful capacity.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You can even be incorrect on a subject you have expertise in.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

that's why we have peer reviews for new findings by experts.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

....and all in between, hormonal and/or physically. "Only two genders" is false

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