Asking my Trump-voting Navy dad about this, wish me luck fam
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What I've found works in exposing their bias and letting you know you'll never get an honest opinion is reversing the positions.
When news came out in his first term that Trump was having Lou Dobbs on conference call during important meetings I asked my dad "did you hear that Obama used to have Anderson Cooper on conference calls during important meetings?" and naturally he says "of course he would, that's pretty messed up they shouldn't allow that kind of stuff." then I apologized for lying and said "it was actually Lou Dobbs and Trump." again naturally he then changes his tune "oh, well Lou Dobbs is a respectable journalist, that's different..."
Ok thanks dad, I now know I can never trust your opinion. It changes based on whether it's your team or not.
"Did you hear biden's son in law was the ambassador to Ukraine? And right after he stepped down from his position, Ukraine invested 2 BILLION dollars with his company? Yeah that's messed up. Oh whoops, it was Jared kushner and Saudi Arabia, my bad."
I hit a guy with that one. I actually got him to say yeah they should investigate that.
inb4 "she must have been up to something, they wouldn't just fire her for no reason"
Clearly an unqualified DEI hire, luckily she'll be replaced by a 'qualified white male'
/s cause that made me vomit.
Well what did he say
Nothing of value =/
Imagine putting a fucking bird on your chest for forty years, saluting a piece of fabric, sacrificing your family and shit.
40 years of putting on that clown makeup and they just stick the nose on someone else.
I don't personally believe in what she believes in, but it's perfectly reasonable for someone who grew up during this country's Reagan era to truly and genuinely believe that serving in the military is a valuable and fulfilling purpose that's greater and more important than the needs of a single family.
Maybe it's clown makeup, but wouldn't it be nice to feel some sense of purpose in your life rather than spending it shit talking people on the internet?
some sense of purpose in your life
I like to live my life and find purpose in it without shooting brown kids for oil.
To be fair, we have a former actor and comedian as the president. The difference is he isn't a fascist piece of human garbage, not so much in the career paths.
I ponder that sometimes. I wonder if a comedian has made such a solid leader because a comedian's role to society is to speak truths that go unheard, and to make unbearable times bearable. I find myself questioning if every leader shouldn't be a comedian
Reminds me of this character in Watchmen. Calls himself the Comedian, but never makes "jokes" in a classical sense. He is cruel, overly patriotic, violent against protesters, seems to enjoy massacres in Vietnam. Only one other person understands that he is actually against these things and tries to show them this hyperbolic mirror of their own totalitarian views. But everybody else doesn't understand it, they take it face value and admire his "patriotism". He never breaks role until the last moment (or even then just in the movie?).
The last supposedly Ukrainian person I talked to here was very anti Zelenskyy and wanted him to just lay down arms. What's your opinion on the matter? Do you want your country to keep fighting? Do you qualify for the draft yourself?
Those seem to be quite loaded questions.
I myself would be neither for nor against Zelenskyy, if it was peace time. Normally, there would have been elections last year, so there would be a non zero chance we would have had a different president already, if not for the war. But, since that's legally not possible right now, here we are, and I'm not about to go protest in the streets demanding to have elections as soon as possible.
That said, I am very much against being occupied and invaded. While also not willing to be drafted myself, since I know I would be quite useless on the battlefield. So the best I can do right now (to help in the war, that is) is to keep donating money for the equipment for our army.
I recognize I'm being hypocritical, since I wish to be protected without having the resolve to enlist myself. But I also recognize that, were I to enlist, my value in actually protecting Ukrainian lives would be very low.
Oh, they weren't meant as loaded. Thing is there are people claiming that Ukrainians, particularly ones eligible for draft or with family members eligible for draft, would much prefer for Zelenskyy to just give up, and people see him as a dictator.
As someone who isn't eligible for the draft and doesn't live in the country it's easy for me to say I want you guys to keep on fighting for your freedom. I think a lot of us in the Baltics don't acknowledge it to ourselves that our support for Ukraine is probably also motivated by the fact that we want to see Russia's military capabilities weakened, not just because we want to see Ukrainians thrive. That's why it's also important to ask what you yourselves want.