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But what about Ukrainian self determination? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago by SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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So Ukraine has turned into a shit show with on the one hand Russia and on the other hand the US and EU. It is clear that Ukraine is merely a pawn in their chess game. This is clear to me.

I try to make it clear to my surroundings too but one question keeps coming back to me whenever it comes to peace talks: what about what Ukrainians want? Should they accept a split in their country with Russia seizing captured land?

I noticed that I do not have a clear answer to this and I wanted to see some input from you guys. Peace talks should imo be the goal as it would be the end to a bloody conflict and it would further (even if slightly) reduce risk for a bigger war. But it is also clear that Ukraine is just a pawn in those peace talks and everything will be decided between the US and Russia. Is it realistic to acknowledge Ukrainian interest in this? And if so, to what extent can leftist support said interests?

Thank you in advance for your answers. It might make it easier for me to go against the warmongering that has been going on lately, and to prevent people close to me from falling for it.

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[–] KrasnaiaZvezda@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 week ago

Another point that I don't hear about is that even if Ukraine decided by their own will to join the "destroy Russia" club then Russia would be very much in their right to do something to avoid that from happening. Although, what really happened is that Ukraine was couped and made to do that, so from that point of view I would say that Russia not going directly against the ones responsible was not the "best" they could have done to put a stop to the situation but it was the easiest thing they could do so they are doing it.