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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Mother-Act-6694 on 2024-12-13 03:33:19+00:00.


Observations:

  • 80% of the videos posted are clearly - and I mean clearly - planes or helicopters
  • 10% are so bad you can’t tell what’s going on
  • 5% are interesting but still not clearly identifiable
  • 5% are UAPish
  • I didn’t see any that are clearly identifiable as terrestrial drones

The biggest thing I took away is how shockingly bad people are at identifying planes. Like “don’t you ever look up at the sky?” bad. It’s no wonder Kirby said many of the reports are manned aircraft. But “many” is doing a lot of heavy lifting and intentionally leaves out the “few,” especially given the broader context of confirmed sightings reported by (presumably) credible observers at Picatinny and Earle, USCG reporting, credible LEOs and statements by NJ Gov re: “going dark.”

There is also a heavy dose of conspiratorial talk in there, chemtrails, etc…the standard fodder. It’s basically the worst of this sub with a smaller dose of rationality, logic or skepticism.

My takeaway? There’s definitely something going on. But you also have a lot of conspiratorial thinkers and untrained observers who don’t know approach patterns, navigational lights, routine military ops and frankly obviously identifiable planes.

It’s a classic flap. Something weird happens and gets muddied with a bunch of nonsense. I suggest keeping a level head and pushing for real answers rather than accepting an “all is fine but we don’t know anything” attitude, while also aggressively debunking things that are obvious attempts to distract from the core facts at hand, namely the numerous military installations and trained observers who aren’t going to misidentify a CRJ or 737 as a drone or pre-planned live-fire exercises as drone lasers.

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