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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 129 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Streaming only. Sign up now for your recurring subscription. You'll own nothing and you'll like it, or else.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (25 children)

Jellyfin (Or Plex if you have to deal with the "Spouse Factor") + Radarr and Sonarr + Usenet

Perfection, no annoying physical media to worry about, but you still get to keep the data you...uhh.."acquired"

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[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yar har, fiddle-dee-dee.

[–] Odelay42@lemmy.world 86 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I genuinely believe more people would have kept uaing physical media if they made it more convenient just to pop in a movie and play it.

Everytime I put in a 4k blu Ray, there's like 40 seconds of useless loading screens, unskippabble warnings, menu animations, and other bullshit. It feels like the old days of massively overcooked multimedia "experiences" in the worst way possible.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I ripped our physical media, and the experience is way better. I wish I could just buy and download a .mkv or .avi or whatever.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can rent (until your service decides to stop selling that content) and download a DRM-locked copy only playable in one app that's 1/5 the bitrate. Is that not good enough for you?

What if we include a full screen ad whenever you pause. You're not watching anyways, what's the harm?

Oh, also, did you hear about our other content and services? We would like to remind you of all of those every time you start to watch something - we don't consider them advertisements, just important feature updates, so you can't remove them.

Aand... you HAVE to be connected to the internet to watch, because we made this really cool AI thing that watches literally everything you do, sends it to our servers, and sometimes happens to recognize which characters are on screen so you can access their IMDB pages through your TV while watching the movie for some reason, like that's a normal thing people want to interrupt their movie experience to do.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Best we can do is enshitification. Hope your standards steadily lower throughout your life.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

40 seconds?

More like 10 minutes

[–] Odelay42@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

For real though

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The best bit is that Blu-ray supports “online content” so they can update the forced intros and trailers to fresh ones!

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

And it's a great way to make sure you get an up to date ad snuck in there.

I still like physical media, but every corner of everything just has to be jam packed with ad crap and other distractors now

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I prefer my 10min of unskippable download time and watching it in 4k with a proper bitrate.

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[–] BirdObserver@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

4K discs are so niche that this just isn’t really true, since they simply don’t bother to add that stuff anymore with the money all going to streaming. Almost every 4K disc I have just loads right into a bland generic menu with only a skippable logo for universal or whatever at the beginning. On top of that, they’re all region free. Odd that when the consumer base for physical media is smaller than it used to be, the consumer experience is better.

Now most of these 4K discs also come with a regular (often older) Blu-ray which contains the features from previous releases or whatever, and THAT’S where the bullshit you’re talking about is - lots of trailers (with it being a crapshoot whether you can skip straight to the menu, need to skip one at a time, or have to actually fast forward them), and, worst of all, defunct BD-Live stuff that in some cases you have no way to skip loading at all, even if you completely disable network connectivity in the player. None of this junk is in any of my 4Ks. Sometimes the features are even on the 4K too, if you’re really lucky.

But yeah, modern 4K discs are mostly great and still absolutely way better video and audio quality than any streaming service I’ve used - the worst thing you usually get is maybe one dumb copyright notice. (LG’s 4K players were terrible anyway though making the experience bad for consumers for a different reason, but that’s for another comment).

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

And five minutes of ads.

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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The DRM on Blu-Ray was too harsh so I skipped the format entirely. If I couldn't put a disc into my HTPC (Linux) and press "play", I wasn't interested.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago

Funny that the DRM didn't even really prevent ripping the disks... A few different players were hacked to leak decryption keys and mess with the firmware to allow backing up to a PC (or piracy if that's your thing). I have all my media stored locally because I can't stand having shows being removed from streaming services.

[–] EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ve only ever bought one single blue ray disk, and that was the final venture brothers movie, in support of Jackson & Doc

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

Go Team Venture!

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We also would have accepted:

Rigby tax:

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

In a different, better universe HD-DVD won.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, i kept foolishly building HTPCs with bluray drives hoping that someday i could actually play my bluray disks...

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We got a few, and then I ended up getting a Bluray drive and flashing libredrive on it, and now I can rip Bluray in full quality. I'm probably going to go load up on more Bluray discs because ripping works well.

I don't have an HTPC, I just stream my videos from my NAS to my TV, and I do all my ripping on Linux.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The end is near for physical media for video.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I wish there were more/better/good choices for streaming video. We already have decent solutions for audio, games and books/audiobooks, yet video seems to be lagging behind, hugely.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's because there is a strong tradition of rights distribution for movies and TV being totally fucked up, and it has been since day 1 of both industries. Brought to you by the same motherfuckers who gave you Hollywood Accounting^tm^, where a movie that cost $100 million to make and raked in $500 million at the box office somehow "didn't turn a profit" and magically they don't have to pay royalties to any of their writers or actors.

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Streaming isn't the middle ground in my opinion, rather it's unrestricted downloadable files that you can then handle however. Streaming provides some convenience but no consistent access (see various shows being delisted or shuffled between services).

Companies would love if everyone forgot having home video, in the sense of owning copies of movies and shows they always have access to and ability to watch whenever.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Especially since stuff you want to watch changes services all the time.

It's like if your DVDs of the star wars trilogy got replaced by the Brady bunch and then told you to pay more for that privilege.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Jellyfin and Plex: "What am i? Chopped liver‽"

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

First their phones, now this? Does LG only want to be known as the company that makes great TVs and shit appliances?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Their washing machines are pretty decent.

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[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The arrrs are often rips of physical media, so they'll be setting sail too I guess

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm curious what the landscape will be like in 10 years. Hard to push 8k, HDR, and all the other TV gizmos when the only source media available is 3GB 'UHD' movies from streaming services that have been stomped all over with compression.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hopefully original quality versions of things will stay available. I was pretty hyped to rewatch Westworld when the 4K HDR bluray seasons came out. Soooo much better quality than streaming.

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[–] eru777@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The format was made in such a way that you needed very specific specs to watch on PC. They killed the format themselves.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the thing Sony does best.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Blu-ray wasn't designed by Sony, they just participated in the licensing pool. Sony designed UMD, those tiny disks used by PlayStation Portable.

[–] tywarth@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Literally just started collecting blu rays again because I'm sick of the shitty selection streaming platforms have. Good thing my PS3 still runs perfect haha.

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I recently bought a second PC Blu-ray writer just in case this would happen. Lucky me. I should be good for the next 10 years.

Looks like they're still available for now in the UK but at inflated prices sent from America

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B079LTC6ML

The above supports UHD and is easy to... adapt for legitimate ripping of your Blu-ray. For backup purposes of course.

I think Panasonic still make some too but I've used LG ones for years.

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For internal desktop drives, I have the WH16NS40. After flashing some open firmware on it, it works perfectly for playing and ripping BRs. Looks like I'll be picking up a spare in case this one dies.

The MakeMKV forum has a lot of good tips and instructions on selecting and configuring BluRay drives.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

im torn. as someone with a massive personal library, bluray was a non-starter. they never fleshed it out to the storage densities i would have required for my library. solid state storage has come so far now, it just makes sense.

someday i'll just be able to hand a single drive with my 100tb of content to my kids. if youre concerned about 'owning' shit. start powning it.

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