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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I feel like the folks who felt super justified in not voting are now obsessive on this. but. but. other people were supposed to get us the democrat against our will....

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (7 children)

That is not my experience at all. I'm mostly seeing people the, "Harris ran a perfect campaign," crowd buying in on this one.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So we upgraded from blaming minority voters to literally Trump's own 2020 election mouthpiece lmao.

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, we're the people that always love to talk about evidence. So, let's make sure we're applying that principle evenly and demanding and looking at evidence for claims we like the sound and feeling of.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well there are irregularitiea and a manual recount would either provide evidence or it would prove that no such thing happened.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You need evidence to justify a recount when they're normally only expected to shift the results by less than a percentage point. They're not cheap, you don't just do them whenever people feel like it.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think that's enough evidence to warrant such recount.

There's a irregularity that, did not happen in prior elections and only in swing states, not even neighboring ones. It could be nothing or could be valid.

You are saying that there's no evidence, but with electronic voting machines the only time you get evidence is if you verify it.

The most mind-blowing thing to me is that the less people are familiar with software engineering the more trusting they are of electronic voting machines and when there are irregularities just dismissing it.

Tell me, what evidence you would need to say "ok, I think we should recount these machine counted votes".

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What specific irregularities? I haven't heard anything credible yet. This article is about how some of the irregularities being claimed are actually falsehoods people made up, the numbers they use are incorrect.

Evidence could really be anything, a witness, a whistleblower, a report of some sort. A shift in voting patterns doesn't really qualify is all, since that happens all the time, and is very normal.

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[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Bullet votes" completely jibe with the narrative that a small but significant percentage of Trump voters are willfully low-information, so un-invested in the democratic process that they can't be bothered to take the time even to vote a straight party ticket, and think that voting for a single strong-man will fix all their problems. The non-electoral factors behind all this are deeply troubling, and many of them are criminal, but for the actual voting there's no need to invent a conspiracy when simple shittiness will do.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The bullet ballot nonsense was started by a Republican kook that's made fake election claims about every election going all the way back to 2008.

Definitely something to ignore.

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