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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Should not" is immediately countered with "Is, and what are you going to do about it?"

And so far, the answer is nothing.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

By being here we are already fighting it.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Lemmy has a total userbase of around 60k, unless it's grown since 2 months ago. Even if every single Lemmy user donated $10,000 each to a cause fighting elon musk, their efforts would STILL be less than a rounding error in comparison to his money.

And twitter userbase vs lemmy userbase is equally laughable.

We're here because WE don't approve of corporate bullshit. But make no mistake. Lemmy, nor we, are any threat to stopping musk. Just like Gen X was never a threat to Rupert Murdock in the 90s.

It may piss you off, but thats the reality. 40 years from now, musk will still hold more power than you ever will. He'll continue to make more money in a second than you'll make in a lifetime.

And I'm not defending him. I'm just stating facts. The people will not do anything to stop him. It would take a coordinated effort, from basically every person on the planet to take him down at this point......and that's not happening.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

The people will not do anything to stop him.

Sure seems that way.

Countering with money isn't possible. People need to be mad(der). Barely withholding (or not) violence mad. In the streets mad. Revolution mad.

Had the chance to avoid the violence part before electing someone who flat out said he'd use the military against its own.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Youre only pointing out that not enough people are fighting back, but being here is fighting against billionaire control of social media.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When you watch a hockey game, and your team is down by 3 in the 3rd, with 10 minutes left on the clock......is a comeback possible? Absolutely. But you have to pay attention to the quality of play. If your team is consistantly getting quality chances that miss by inches, sure. It's entirely plausible that one goes in, starts a rally, and you score 2 more in 9 minutes.

But if the score is 3-0, and your team is lazily drifting on the ice, barely getting puck time, and then abandoning the puck through sloppy passes, and weak shot rebounds, then that 3-0 is everybit as intimidating as it sounds.

And right now I don't see an environment where society is hungrily fighting for the puck. I don't see people demanding an alternative. I don't see people making any progress towards even trying to dismantle big vorporate interests and control.

I see a public that's complacent. I see a public lazily saying they wish they could get rid of twitter, without finishing the thought process of how to do that.

It would be like saying "Linux has more features and more privacy than windows, therefore it existing and having an audience will mean it will kill windows!"

But forgetting to take into account that just because you're passionate, doesn't mean anybody else gives a shit. If they did, they'd already have switched. And the amount of people who have switched aren't even enough to be worth mentioning the platform exists.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Im not talking about lemmy being generally critical of billionaires, i mean the platform itself and its use is directly fighting against billionaire control of social media, because its social media they cant control.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

BlueSky has 14 million users and growing. Hoping it's federated as planned soon.

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[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

60,000 x 10,000 is - 600,000,000.. yeah ok for someone who has billions and billions 600 million dollars isnt anything.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

my brain decided you said replaced with instead of countered with, and I was trying to piece the sentence "Billionaires is, and what are you going to do about it? control our information feeds" together like a puzzle xd

[–] Mateoto@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

There should be a petition to vote for banning Twitter in the EU. It's time we take a step against US Oligarchs and their election interference

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He also controls Starlink, which apparently many new poling places had installed for this election.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We need a nationwide recount. Too many enemies of America have had access to our voting machines.

[–] Tweet@feddit.uk 0 points 3 days ago
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This is not the world government Star Trek promised me.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We will get there I promise. Unfortunately it's going to be painful though. The wheat still has the be separated from the chaff. As a species our old habits need to die. Elon represents those old habits of everything bad in humanity.

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[–] icdmize@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump says he may put Elon in his cabinet as a “Secretary of Cost-Cutting.” Simultaneously, within hours of his inauguration, he plans to enact a "Digital Bill of Rights" banning online censorship. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon is appointed as the "Social Media Czar" instead.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Elon Goebbels it is

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think a "Putin link" is necessary to build a justification.

It's enough that Musk is a bilionaire controlling the platform and intefering in it: that thing is not a fair platform of communication, it's algorithimically shaped to make it a Propaganda vehicle and there's no point in frequenting a place whose function is to make you think and do what others want you to think and do.

This desperate attempt at a finding a "Russia excuse" is a massive Americanism reminiscent of McCarthism and generally boils doing directly or indirectly a self-serving excuse from politicians from "moderate" parties who have spent the last 2 or 3 decades serving interests other than those of their voters and who now are reaping the natural results of that, and they want to blame anybody else but themselves. When the rationale "by an amazing coincidence" entirelly absolves the people putting it forward and doesn't come with strong proof, it's bullshit until further evidence for it emerges. We saw a lot of that shit parroted by Democrat tribalists here in Lemmy right after their loss in the Presidential Elections in the US - the fault was from everybody but they themselves.

I don't really know how much Russia interferes with Twitter or with the various elections the West (I'm pretty sure they at least try, but there are so many interested in making it seem huge and shifting all the blame to it, that what we common humans with no access to intelligence brefings hear about it is too thick with propaganda to be trusted), but then again the same goes for Israel and other countries and even individuals with enough means to pay for it (or ownership of media vehicles) who have an interest in shaping the outcomes, especially multi-millionaires and billionares - remember the massive role of Cambridge Analitica in Brexit, and they were paid not by Russia but by wealthy Americans.

What I'm saying is that ultimatelly it's the being a Propaganda outlet that matters and the "whose propaganda" is irrelevant: none of those actors are doing their manipulative "opinion forming" for my best interests and their chosing to use such techniques tells me that they see other human beings as nothing more than puppets on their strings, so they're not the kind of people one can trust in any way form or shape.

Personally I droped Twitter following the whole Brexit thing and well before Musk, though the latter did made me actually delete my account rather than just leave it there unused.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, to US libs it's always Putin and never the thousands of radical fascist talk show hosts on AM radio or the Salem Media Group beaming out of NYC. That's because liberals voted for the 1996 Telecommunications Act that gave corporations the power to buy up all the media outlets and push that shit. When you point that out, they try to play the "marketplace of ideas" card...that liberal/leftist shows would be there instead if they made money. They just dont know who they're dealing with, and they never learn.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Liberals: We want to obsess over Putin's fascism!

Leftists: We have fascism at home!

Liberals: Putin brought fascism to our homes?

Leftists: Jesus Fuckin' Christ...

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[–] krigo666@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not Twitter anymore, it"s Xitter...

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Lots of people are migrating over to an alternative site but they're doing it after the election, having normalized fascism up until that point by ignoring all the calls to leave it for the previous two years. Fucking thanks a lot, folks

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If Bruce Wayne (and subsequently Batman) was real, would he be on Reddit or Lemmy?

I feel like he would be running his own instance called The Bat Cave.

[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Bruce Wayne was real I would hope that he got shot in the face while beating up the poors and his wealth confiscated in a 100% estate tax.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Okay there, Penguin.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 2 points 3 days ago

Billionaires are the most accomplished human beings. They should be in control of literally everything!

[–] Mrhawkins@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

here we go!

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

nor should they be allowed to run for government office.

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