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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Weird… as a cis heterosexual white male, I don’t find myself hanging around people that I need to censor or correct at all. I’ve proactively cut all of those people out of my life within the past 8 years. My friends are the folks you don’t need to tell stuff like this to.

I will say, in the process of removing people that were awful, they tend to just laugh when they are “corrected,” as they find amusement in the antagonization. Once you separate yourself from them, it’s just 2-3 confused text messages and that’s the end of it.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I do (cuz family). Calling them out like this is one of my favorite pastimes since they think I'm 100% with them. Stopping them in their tracks can be really entertaining

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My family is conservative and I'm still dependant on them for healthcare, so calling them out usually isn't worth it although sometimes I still do.

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Please do what's safest for you! The family I mentioned is actually my cousins' in-laws, so there's no real consequence

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Not saying cutting people out is wrong, you do you. But don't you think all of this alienation we are collectively doing is leading to the echo chambers that reinforce bad behaviors?

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I do, but I don’t want to be around those people. I don’t think being around them (and trying to influence) changes anything for the better either.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I can only control my own behavior. I cannot force another to change, they have to want to. The only thing I can do is draw the lines I'm willing to live within and live by them. And if not associating with bad people, even if they are family, is what I need to live in a healthy way, so be it.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I hear you, but idk what to do. I can't engage with someone who says out loud things like "I want trump to become a dictator" and "democracy is overrated" and "your body my choice" and don't seem to care at all that mass deporting 10+million people WILL lead to mass murder. It's impossible to have a discussion in good faith with these people. They've just demonstrated that the last 8-9 years is a feature, not a bug, and let the mask off about who they really are. They've alienated themselves by leaving the realm of reality.

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

They think this is a culture war. They believe they are at war with ideas they do not like.

They will not give ground until forced to do so. They will only do so begrudgingly, and insincerely, waiting for the day they can claw it back.

They see you as an enemy, and they give themselves rage chubbies at the thought of refusing to negotiate.

Absolutely, if you hear this nonsense, call it out, but be prepared for it to escalate.

Let's return to a time when saying that crap out loud was enough to end a career. Make them afraid to be bigoted in public again.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

This is legit why I have like two male friends left tbh. After 2016 I stopped giving a fuck. The problem... or maybe the cause in a way... is that I'm an oddly assertive introvert so it's very easy for me to end up in a situation where I'm doing nothing but going off on people and making drama.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

You don't need to be cisgender, heterosexual, male or white to call people out on their bigoted beliefs.

Edit: if you are in those categories you're more likely to be taken more seriously by other cishet white men. I think I understand the point of the original post now.

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[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Oh hey it's that mean voice in my head

[–] Amanduh@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

I play a lot of rocket league and the kids love homophobic slurs, I just call them pathetic.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Even a simple "bruh" can help.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

There's one thing I really don't understand. And this question has no agenda except that I would like to. Also if I use the word "he" inappropriately, please for the sake of the question let that slide...

Say a woman transitions to a man. He's a man now, right? So why is it necessary that he be called trans and someone who was born a man be called cis? I mean if the goal is equality, and it should be, why should we know or care which is the case? And the same question goes for cis/trans women.

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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Pin this somewhere.

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