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When Meta launched their new Twitter competitor Threads on July 5, they said that it would be compatible with the ActivityPub protocol, Mastodon, and all the other decentralized social networks in the fediverse "soon".

But on July 14, @alexeheath of the Verge reported that Meta's saying ActivityPub integration's "a long way out". Hey wait a second. Make up your mind already!

From the perspective of the "free fediverse" that's not welcoming Meta, the new positioning that ActivityPub integration is "a long way out" is encouraging. OK, it's not as good as "when hell freezes over," but it's a heckuva lot better than "soon." In fact, I'd go so far as to say "a long way out" is a clear victory for the free fediverse's cause.

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[–] vamp07@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Without activepub integration, I just see threads as another Twitter. I don't think any of these walled gardens are very interesting, especially Twitter copies such as Mastodon or Threads. It's just another platform for the few to get their message out to the many. It's boring in almost all cases.

[–] Mylemmy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Bummer I honestly can’t wait until we can integrate. Connecting with some who would just never come to the fediverse otherwise

[–] eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 0 points 2 years ago

I know everyone doesn't like the idea of meta federating but that's the reason I got my wife to try mastodon. Just saying.

[–] Feyter@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Actually I still think meta doing activity pub would be overall a good thing and a win for all of us. Users should decide what will be the best platform for them to use, free from any content locking reasons.

Meta being able to create completely new social network overnight and still getting more users then entire Fendiverse without the need to open up anything... That feels more like a loose for me.

But this is a very unpopular opinion here.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

have you read https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html? If/when you read it, I would be curious on how it changed your view in the topic. Or why it didn't.

The fediverse is a tool of freedom, morals, ethics, for those that want to be connected, something that no commercial entity will offer. And it’s ok for it to not grow at all costs, or be the widespread available platform. It just needs to be present and faithful to itself.

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[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you know how they got those 'more users'?

[–] Feyter@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes by making it like a one-click Join from their other very popular platform "Instagram" and advertising it there.

That's (most probably) why threads is currently not available in the EU. Gatekeeper practices like this would be illegal with the Digital Markets Act. But honestly it would be very easy to get around this. Just make it possible to join without an Instagram account. So I guess there are more concerns from Meta to not fullfil EU Standards than just this.

Sooo I guess EU finally did a good job here.

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[–] Mylemmy@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Bummer I honestly can’t wait until we can integrate. Connecting with some who would just never come to the fediverse otherwise

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I don't consider that a victory at all. Meta could bring the Fediverse to the masses. And allow anyone to follow and interact with their friends on Threads.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (30 children)

I haven't heard a single valid reason why federating with Meta is bad. Only people misunderstanding how technology works.

edit: remember pretty much all objections can be solved by personally blocking the domain, rather then forcing it to be blocked for everyone. Also that all the information Meta could possibly get, they can already get regardless because all of our content is public.

[–] reclipse@lemdro.id 0 points 2 years ago
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