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I tried gaming on Linux... [Jeff Geerling] (www.youtube.com)
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[–] MrGamingHimself@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

I installed Ubuntu LTS

Ahhh boy, I already knew he'd run into issues right after that line. I wish people would stop recommending Ubuntu or difficult to get into distros like Arch. If someone's new on Linux, please, just tell them to get something like Pop OS, Zorin OS, or Fedora (which someone convinced him with luckily!)

A lot of people recommend distros with poor support or UX, and others keep saying distros don't matter since you can do anything on Linux. NO, distros matter A LOT for people getting into Linux because it's their first impression, and one that's too old or is difficult to get running will just turn them off forever.

Great video btw.

[–] LIESGREEDMISERY@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I experienced the similar thing. It took me a while to get into a distro that just works for me, which is Fedora haha.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Decided to try Fedora for the first time after a year and a half of using Linux, having hopped through quite a bunch of distros (Pop to Manjaro to Garuda to Arch, where I spent most of my time), and man... I don't think I'll switch distros soon.

Even had a chance to do so when I accidentaly "broke" my system (which I later found out it was literally due to my .bash_profile having some conflicting stuff), but every single distro I tried after it never felt quite the same:

  • No SELinux on Arch without using a lot of AUR versions of essential packages;
  • No pipewire or BTRFS on both Pop and Ubuntu without having to do a lot of stuff manually, and it uses an older version of GNOME and apparmor instead of SELinux, which I haven't learned how to create profiles for;

Even the pain points I had with Fedora are being dealt with, little by little:

  • FFmpeg will be part of the main repos with F36 (although a little gimped due to H.264 patents);
  • The secure boot patches to kmodtool and akmods will come with F36, which means secure boot can still be enabled even with custom kernel modules if you create and enroll your own keys, which is easy enough to do;
  • Waydroid has a compatible COPR repo now, without the need for a custom kernel, which I hope gets in the main repos in the future;

The only pain point I have left is having a working and compatible version of Timeshift in the distros without having to do a manual install or a proper GUI to snapper.

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Fedora was what I was using for years before arch. Ubuntu has always annoyed me.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice and mature response, a lot better than shitty Linus's video.

[–] MrGamingHimself@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Shitty Linus's video" pointed out issues with Linux and its communities that people have been talking about for over a decade, yet people only just now realized because now a popular youtuber saying it.

Linux is awesome, but it has a massive UX problem. You have to use the console, but first you have to learn how to use the console, and when beginners install/update/remove something the console spams 300 lines that are hard to parse. Then when you mess up, you can damage your system. All of these things are obvious, but people only got alarmed when Linus struggled with it...

It's been getting better with GUI tools and flatpak, but man 99% of distros are still a UX disaster and not made for the average person.

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Linus didn't attempt to learn anything, and slapped the keyboard like a toddler having a temper tantrum.

Instead of using the software installer gui, he pasted apt-get into the manjaro console, and then complained it didn't work 🤦‍♂️
Thats not a UX problem its a PEBKAC.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linus didn’t attempt to learn anything, and slapped the keyboard like a toddler having a temper tantrum.

Just like 95% of all computer users.

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/

[–] Thann@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

you're not wrong

[–] MrGamingHimself@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Because everyone keeps giving him conflicting info and told him to use the console, it's pretty much what happens to every new Linux user but everyone is so used to Linux that they think it's a non-issue. My first reaction was to download Steam flatpak, but that version had issues so I installed it from the console, and you bet most newbies will copy/paste because nobody wants to learn how to use the console...

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I love how people simply decided that he was complaining when he talked about that.

He literally said that that's how he found out Manjaro uses a different package manager. Before that, he didn't understand that different distros use different package managers. It's wasn't a complaint, it was him talking about his learning process.