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[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 164 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have no issues with my politicians protecting people from being bombed. I'd love it if we'd also protect Ukraine with such vigor.

What I do have a problem with is when they provide the weaponry needed to commit genocidal actions and effectively encourage said usage by refusing to apply any sort of oversight.

Protecting Israel, or any other country from violence should be considered a good thing. Causing violence to Gaza, Lebanon, Iran, wherever, should not.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A balanced take? On the internet? Get outta here!

But for real I’m on the same page as you on this one.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No take on the subject is more controversial then acknowledging that this is an issue more complicated then an episode of GI Joe

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And acknowledging is half the battle

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The other half of the battle is laser burn to eyes.

[–] newfie@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should we protect Lebanon from Israel?

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This isn't really a gotcha question. The answer is yes.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Like, imagine a magical satellite system that automatically shoots down all missiles from all nations. Using weapons to destroy weapons is a wonderful thing for peace. Unfortunately any such system would be selectively activated by whoever controlled it.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah, agreed. I don't have a viable solution (I wish I controlled my various government representatives, but alas!), but even perfect solutions would be ruined by people. People are why we can't have nice things. :(

(Really hoping this doesn't post multiple times. Seems I'm having some internet issues.)

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

You got GOT

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Protecting Israel from repercussions of the violence it causes is not a good thing. No one else can stop them because the US will protect them.

I’d rather my politicians protect victims not Nazis.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Israel isn't a monolith.

Innocent people should be protected.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Should we have gone out of our way to defend nazi germany because it wasn't a monolith either and innocent people should be protected?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You some champion of missing the point?

[–] hark@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Don't worry, I'm no threat to your title.

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Godwin's law…

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Damn, 4 people disagreeing with 2 statements?
Both of which are factually true?

Weirdos

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This time, or the last time?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

batmanbeyond.meme

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is probably just theater. Iran can't look weak but they really don't want to pike the bear.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How do most people in Iran and among its allies perceive it? As a show of force or as a failure? (How did they perceive the similar April attack?)

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

everyone i know in iran wants the US conflict to happen so they can escape the mullahs.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

So is this senile prick good with Israel drawing them into another war in the midEast? Is that the point of all this or is it just a by-product of supporting a megalomaniac that's willing to start WW3 in order to avoid a corruption trial?