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@bot@lemmit.online has been subject to multiple reports from our users over the last while.

We would like the users' input on how to deal with it. It is the opinion of the administrators that @bot@lemmit.online, and @lemmit.online doesn't add anything positive and constitutes spam. We especially want to make sure we get feedback as we are more likely to be sensitive to bots like this and other forms of spam compared to most users as we'll often scroll through "All" sorted by new.

Here are the options.

Please vote by up voting on one of the comments below. Downvotes will be ignored. Additional comments and discussion is more than welcome. Results of this discussion will provide us guidance on how to deal with other bots in the future as well.

If you're not a lemmy.ca registered user, please refrain from voting but feel free to comment with your opinion.

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[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I think it simply makes sense to leave it up to users to block this if they don't like it. This approach allows for folks to achieve what they want without forcing this decision onto others.

[–] techt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My take from an outside perspective: banning the one account seems like the sensible approach toward the goal of sending a stern message to the creator and establishing an early precedent -- one account is bad enough, imagine more. I think defederating should only be used if the creator doesn't take the hint and creates another account.

[–] jacous@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I vote block the account.

[–] Chathtiu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I’m from lemmy.world. What is this bot you’re talking about? I haven’t had the misfortune of running into it. What makes it spam?

Edit: Thanks everyone for your helpful answers! Based on the responses below, I believe you should definitely defederate.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

It usually only show up in New Because no one upvoting it

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[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I haven’t noticed it yet, but if you feel it’s a big enough problem, I’d say block the account for now. Defederating feels like a more serious punishment that I’d reserve for multiple bad actors.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I vote to ban the bot.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I vote for the user block option.

[–] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did lemmy.ca already defederate? I clicked the link to the link to block the bot it but it shows nothing there. Yet if I sign out, I can see it.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, that's probably just lemmy being buggy.

If you scroll to the bottom of the page and click instances, you can search on that page for it

[–] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I tried again today on my desktop this time and managed to figure it out.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Defed for sure. If it provided a valuable service, some communities would have made it an official bot by now and I don't see that happening anywhere.

[–] _spiffy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Let the users block the bot.

[–] johnefrancis@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

option 3 is my choice

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Using the All+New sorting is practically useless because of 🫘 and equivalent noise whether this bot is alive or dead. From what I've seen New is only useful when combined with Subscribed or Local. On the basis of that I wouldn't take any action since people who might want to read this stuff won't be able to, and we'll not see a dramatic improvement to All+New.

[–] SirAramis@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Here's a link to their FAQ in case anyone is interested

[–] Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I vote to defederate.

I don't want to see spam and that is in great part why I validated my email and joined this instance. The great thing about being on Lemmy is I can go to another instance to view that content if I want to see it. I like having a variety of instances with different moderation levels.

The way I see it, the user is still in control. I'm on other instances; I'll still see the content if I want. Here, I want moderation curated towards user engagement. I left Reddit to avoid low-quality bot posts and I preferably don't want to think about bots all the time. It's exhausting and I don't want to play whack-a-mole. What I want to see are the things people are interested in straight from the users. I don't need doomscrolling reddit feeds sourced by bots again.

Edit for clarity, I hope!

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