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[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh, never knew this was where the RPG term spelljammer came from.

I've never run or been in a spelljammer campaign but have always been interested. I just thought they "jammed" together magic and age of sail ideas and that's where they got the name from lol.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The "jammer" in Windjammer is not associated with "jamming", see my other comment.

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah lol looked that up myself, too. But when making sense of the RPG term in the first place, I relied on my then understood definition of jamm(ing/er).

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

No frisbees?

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I used to work on these as a sailor. Most can be chartered for trips. Some sea going ones travel across the world to this day. If you want a fun week get some friends together and sail one some place!

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

These are not windjammers though, are they? They look like pretty vanilla, small sail boats (IDK sloops ketches, or yawls... (Wrong ... Too many masts. They're schooners.) Windjammer was a derogatory moniker for the sailing ships built after steel construction became common. Much much taller masts, wire rigging etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd expect a much larger hull and 3 or 4 very tall masts, with something like four square sails per mast.

The Windjammers outcompeted steam vessels for many transoceanic trade routes because they don't require the constant input of coal to operate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windjammer

Picture on that article depicts a ship with six square sails.

EDIT: looked at the picture again. I believe they are schooners.

[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

I’ve worked on one of these that sails off the coast of New England. It was a passenger boat that would do week long cruises. Long, tough hours, but the view from the office each morning was unbeatable.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The German term "Windjammer" translates literally to "wind whiner" or "wind lamentor" as the crews of these ships were very unhappy when there was no wind.

[–] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

According to Wikipedia, Windjammer is a term of English origin:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windjammer#Etymology

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the introduction of steel to sail boat construction allowed bullders to blow previous size constraints out of the water. They were considered big and ugly. IRC Windjammer was an insulting name because they didn't look like elegant craft that rode the wind, but wind jammers.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Compared to their wooden counterparts, windjammers may not be quite as elegant, but I find some of them quite attractive. E.g. Christian Radich.

That ship, btw, was the star in the 1958 film Windjammer. Shot in Cinemiracle, it is well worth a watch.