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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] m88youngling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I noticed the article me tioned that the women told the police that they communicated over Facebook Messenger. I wonder what prompted them to spill the beans, or if they were unaware of the implications of telling them how they communicated about the situation. If this is true, it doesn't sound like the police is sending warrants for everyone online to request their data, but it still makes me very cautious about unencrypted messaging

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember: This is the company that wants to federate with our communuty-run instances.

[–] onparole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't ever admit to anything illegal online. Never.

[–] Galaghan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I do the opposite. Admit to every single thing, keep'em guessing what's true.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Here is a interesting statistics problem:

Let's say 50% of your state wants abortion to be legal. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/state/nebraska/views-about-abortion/

Lets say 10% wants it legal, but will vote to convict someone that committed an abortion. So, 40% will vote to acquit since they don't see it as a crime. Lets say that of the remaining, 10% of those with obvious views of jury nullification will be kept off of the jury by the prosecution.

Twelve people. Each person will vote to convict 70% of the time and 30% will never vote to convict. What is the chance of a conviction? 70%, right? No, in civil trials you need a majority and in criminal trials you need a unanimous vote. So to get all 12, you will have a (0.7)^12 = 1.3% chance of conviction. Lets say the jury pool reflected Nebraska, 0.5^12= 0.02%. What about if only 10% would vote to block? 0.9^12=28%. Remember, ~10% believe the moon landings were faked. You can get 10% to basically believe anything. Even with the worst case scenario, you have under a 1 in 3 chance of being convicted.

That is why all post-roe laws target doctors and not (directly) women. Much easier to remove someones medical license then to get an abortion conviction.

[–] SmashTheState@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

What a rotten way to die.

[–] IlllIIIlllIlllI@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

“Company follows laws in the country it operates in.” More at 11.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terrible from Facebook. Wow.

[–] Reptorian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is to be expected from Facebook to be honest. People should drop it despite connections.

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