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It feels like people are a lot nicer here than on Twitter and Reddit, and even when people disagree, it's generally civil and not an all-out flame war. Also, there's no algorithm promoting outrage all the time.

For me, the anticipation of toxicity was a huge deterrent for me ever participating in real discussions, but here I feel like I can be myself.

I think it's healthier this way.

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[โ€“] FatLegTed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So far. One the nob ends find a way in it'll not be as friendly, that's why blocking them and their instances promptly is important. I saw something on blocklists the other day and will look into that. I may be totally wrong, but to me it sounds like the filters we'd use in uBlock Origin or similar. Sounds good to me.

[โ€“] Magiwarriorx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did see a theory that part of the vibe is the result of federation itself. People drift to instances that align with them and their views, and instances have defederated each other based on hate or trolls. Basically the trolls start quarantining themselves.

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[โ€“] soar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] thezeesystem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Agreed, on other platforms, as a generic trans girl, just existing there was call to action to yell at anything and everything I said or did or anything. I had boost when I was on Reddit and my filter of people and subreddits was extreme because of the hate they had.

I only had to block sp*ders because of a extreme fear. Feels nice here.

[โ€“] Michal@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Reddit used to be like that too, but those people gravitate to the community eventually. I think best we can do is recognize the behaviour early and down vote it on sight.

[โ€“] sean@murray.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just don't say anything bad about the Fediverse (or anything good about Meta/Threads). That's when the toxicity with appear. That's what I've noticed, at least.

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[โ€“] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[โ€“] Kaliax@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Completely agree, so far. Will be interesting to see where it's at in a year...

:)

[โ€“] community_seeder@lemy.lol 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nope. nothing has changed. people are people.

Yeah, I don't know what op is on about, I've already seen rabid toxicity here.

My main motivator to comment here is this being federated, a decentralized network that belongs to no one but the community.

I'm old enough, and I have been on the internet for quite long to know that we can't trust centralized platforms. If you add to that the misplaced incentives of profit and what you get is simply a community time-bomb.

But here? Here we have a completely different scenario. We may still post shit like beans for the lulz, but this happens organically. The end game is just this, and not some fucked corporate agenda.

tl;dr Beans here are an end in itself.

[โ€“] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago

Also, there's no algorithm promoting outrage all the time.

Here's why, there's no algorithm to promote certain posts unlike twitter, facebook, youtube etc

[โ€“] Thcgrasscity@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ive encountered a few, and i think had a post deleted. Sure it was kinda low effort but i learned that old plates had lead on them so i shared. And some jesse dude got offended by it being low quality fear mongering even though its a fact the plate have lead paint. Kinda puts me off the TiL here.

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[โ€“] Ggtfmhy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hate how โ€œtoxic cesspoolโ€ is the default. I was just watching a short video on YouTube about the US city of Baltimore, a place I heard about from an old family friend who studied at Hopkins many years ago.

The video was about the cityโ€™s decline, with the primary cause (according to the video) being the hollowing out of the manufacturing and logistics industries. The channel, Forgotten Places, doesnโ€™t strike me as one that toxic people would be flooding to (those channels exist).

Can you guess what every other comment is about? Hint: itโ€™s not the abandonment of productive industry. A small number of comments name more historical industrial employers that have left the city, but by far the comments with the most upvotes are โ€œwe all know we canโ€™t discuss what happened to Baltimore ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰โ€

[โ€“] notavote@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think that is because all those sites (youtube, twitter, facebook, reddit,...) are promoting "user engagement" or whatever they call it, so they made algorithms that promote it. Of course, that means they promote toxicity and agruments, easiest way to motivate people to comment.

So the whole network becomea unhealthy and toxic.

That's also the reason I am against federating with them.

[โ€“] IonAddis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I've been telling all my friends this feels like the old internet, like early 2000s. It's been great.

I'm hoping at least some younger folks are around so they can experience something they might not have before.

[โ€“] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've definitely found my voice here on Lemmy... And it might be for this reason.

I hope it can stay like this......ofc it won't. But I hope.

[โ€“] Billy_Gnosis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I agree in general, however they are here as well. Already experienced it myself. Those types will never go away completely.

[โ€“] stillline@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago
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