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Google search is dying, Reddit is the next search engine (dkb.io)
submitted 2 years ago by morrowind@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml
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Essentially saying that due to seo spam and commercialization, Google is now useless for search and more and more people do site:reddit.com.

I think it's a little extreme but agree generally.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I stay with Andisearch, Whoogle, Metager and DDG (the only proprietary search engine in my collection). Supposing Reddit search is worse than Google, respect privacy, it shares data with Google, M$, and with this with TowerData (keylogging) and others. Reddit is worse than FB, because of this I use Lemmy or Raddle.

[–] ArchimedesTesseract@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

+1 for Metager

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think it's generally a good sign for a searcher's privacy, if you look at the adressbar and the search url that shows up and also shows up like that in the history.

For example, if I search with Andi, Whoogle and other search engines that respect privacy, regardless of what I search, only https://searchengine/search appears in the adressbar and in the history, in all others apears https://searchengine/search/object of the search which also later apears in the history.

Searching Lemmy With Brave search in the adressbar and history https://search.brave.com/search?q=lemmy

Same search with Whoogle https://whoogle.sdf.org/search

In Andi only apears the url of the Andisearch https://andisearch.com

With Metager apart of the item, apear the config code https://metager.org/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=lemmy&submit-query=&focus=web

All these respect privacy and only stores the history locally, but its better when the search item don't apear in the history, because of this, Whoogle, Andi, Startpage and SearX are those which I use most, Metager, DDG and others only in occasions to contrast some information.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Related note: if I search site:lemmy.ml it doesn't appear to give content from instances it's federated with. Lemmy might be difficult to search.

[–] SeerLite@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We might need a meta-search engine specific for ActivityPub/fedi

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Not sure what you mean by meta-search, but definitely need adjustments to work well for the fediverse.

[–] poVoq@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Well that seems to be also a result of the reverse. Since normal forums on the open web are dying and more and more content is moved into walled gardens like Facebook or soon to be closed places like Reddit, Google really doesn't have much left to search through.

The better headline would be probably that the open web is dying and as a result Google search results suffer.

[–] ezmack@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah pretty much the only way I use reddit these days. Google is terrible if you can't find your answer on the first page. I'd still rather get an answer from a niche forum over reddit, but if I can't find a forum I just slap "site:reddit.com" on there.

Problem is reddit is also bots (if your using the articles dead internet definition). Just blatantly people selling their shit or fake reviews so reddit is kinda losing its usefulness in that respect too. Probably at the same pace as the rest of the internet though. It's harder and harder to find reviews of things that aren't sponsored

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

And google is the best of the lot, on other search engines the second page is often all the same sites as the first. as is the third.

[–] olive@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I ususally add "reddit" to my search terms when I'm looking for recommendations. At least I know I'm getting crowd sourced opinions and not a stupid ranked list where every company paid for their product to be on it...

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Neeva has this handy feature that lets you prioritize or deprioritize sites in all your searches, I've just added Reddit to the list.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you sure? You can pay people to post fake reviews on reddit easily, too.

[–] olive@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can get X to do Y for Z. Statement works for literally every thing in life.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Since people already know Amazon reviews are doctored, the next logical step would probably be to pay them to post on reddit. I don't know how your XYZ argument goes against that.

You can also use a subject S, verb V and object O to build English sentences, which works for figuratively any thing in life.

[–] baggachipz@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really like Kagi so far. It gives me "early google before they sold out" vibes.

[–] Cloak@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Looks great but the 20-30$ a month is absurd. I'm looking more in the 3-4$ ball park (yearly pricing of course)

[–] baggachipz@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I made that very clear to them as well. I said "No way I'm paying more for search than I am for Disney+". They said there will be a pay-per-search option, about $0.01 each IIRC.