A lot of people dislike it for the privacy nightmare that it is and feel the threat of an EEE attack. This will also probably not be the last time that a big corporation will insert itself in the Fediverse.

However, people also say that it will help get ActivityPub and the Fediverse go more mainstream and say that corporations don't have that much influence on the Fediverse since people are in control of their own servers.

What a lot of posts have in common is that they want some kind of action to be taken, whether it'd be mass defederating from Threads, or accept them in some way that does not harm the Fediverse as much.

What actions can we take to deal with Threads?

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[–] Pyon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my opinion, nothing. If Meta is able to effectively take over Fediverse as people are claiming, then the Fediverse was never destined to survive to begin with. On to the next thing. This is the first real test of the resilience of this type of “decentralized social network”, and if it ends up going to shit, it would have eventually anyway.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I disagree with this. You're saying we should watch Meta invade and profit off the fediverse and do nothing? Just because it's an open standard doesn't mean we should watch and let it happen, defederating is retaliation. The fediverse isn't going to succeed by people doing nothing and watching others ruin it.

[–] Pyon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I’m saying is that if there’s always this constant corporate threat, if there’s the functional possibility of it happening, then it will eventually happen. If not Meta, then Musk, or god forbid Trump. Having to constantly “defend” against a mega instance does not seem like a sustainable future for the platform. That said I don’t think this is even an issue. There will always be instances that fundamentally don’t and won’t federate with Threads and other potential big players, so just go there. That’s kinda the point of this whole thing isn’t it? Activitypub and Lemmy/Mastodon won’t go away just because most people are somewhere else.

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[–] guy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given that everything right now is just speculation - I say sit tight, observe what actually happens and respond appropriately if it does start to go wrong. Defederation is very easy, we can do it when we need to

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[–] aranym@lemmy.name 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I run my own instance and am defederating immediately (whenever they start federating). I did also join the pact.
I'll evaluate their impact a month or so in and decide whether or not to refederate.

I acknowledge there's potential for a positive impact here, so I will give them a chance.

[–] Ipodjockey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Fuck em. Burn this place to the ground before we dance with the devil.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

threads will never federate.

[–] Empyreus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Threads is exactly showing the biggest problem with anything Fediverse. It's simpler for the user so it will be accepted. The amount of people I've already seen join is huge compared to mastodon.

[–] marigo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy doesn't need to be #1 in popularity. I'd prefer it to split and maintain a higher level of quality, even if it's smaller as a result. Even if Meta can grab data either way, it should be disconnected on principle.

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[–] Z4rK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s the DNS I need to block to never inadvertently get sent to anything Threads related?

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Same thing we do about reddit. They are free to do their own thing in their own corner as long as they don't bring us into it.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think defederation isn't the solution. Am I dumb in thinking this could actual have a mutual benefit?

Just an example: I will never use Threads, but if I can communicate with them from my Mastodon account, I would like to have that option.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

if I can communicate with them from my Mastodon account, I would like to have that option.

That's the Embrace part, and it is mutually beneficial. Later on, Threads may give your Mastodon account a special color to mark you as one of the crazy socialists, and let their own users exchange unique awards, super-boosts, or other neat Extended features. Then connection between Threads and Mastodon-at-large becomes unreliable due to technical differences in protocol or just volume of content. Threads users see a handful of their friends drop off for no apparent reason, but 'classic' Mastodon users lose almost everyone and the platform is effectively Extinguished.

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This strategy works so well it's scary. Though sometimes the open protocol ends up winning... Spotify has been trying to kill podcasts for ages, but they're not winning even by dumping money into exclusive content.

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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think we should defederate threads. It would only give Meta a walled garden which we will be outside of. Let them embrace us here and encourage everybody to scatter across instances so they can't defederate reasonably

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