proton's having a full on glowup
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Is that sustainable?
Why wouldn't out be? Proton has always had a free tier, this just makes it easier for free users to connect to a vpn
Because nothing is free.
Proton's free plan is supported by people with paid plans
Yes, but the root of the question is whether this is sustainable, or will it get shittified, when "too many" people jumps on the free tier.
Will it get more expensive for the paid tier?
Are they going to get rid of the free tier?
???
The free tier servers are finite resources and usually much more busy/ slow. Proton isn't guaranteeing fast speeds or availability, and all of their free offerings have always been done in a sustainable way.
They're transitioning to a non-profit organization now. While non-profits have their own problems, and it doesn't make them exempt from enshittifying, it removes the profit incentive to do so.
In other words: I'd give them a little more credibility when it comes to this sort of thing until they give us a reason not to. I'm hopeful that they can be a positive force in the industries that they are in.
Proton has offered free plans for all its products for the last 10 years.
If it wasn't sustainable, I think we'd have noticed by now.
Well, userbases tend to grow.
If it wasn't sustainable, I think we'd have noticed by now.
Exactly the opposite.
Huge fan of Proton and their services. I use the VPN and two Proton email accounts. Very helpful, easy to use, and the free versions aren't horrible garbage.
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How so? Like Mullvad does it?
How do you use Mullvad without an account?
You use an account but it’s virtually anonymous. You can buy a sort of prepaid card that you activate. You never have to give personal information.
That’s different than what Proton is doing which is to connect you to their free tier without any authentication.
You basically get a prepaid number that you can use as an identifier for the clients and what you pay for to charge time onto it. Said number is valid for I think 5 devices and can be charged through various ways - you can even send them cash via mail.
This is just "install and use for free without any login of code". Basically free tier without user.
That's not free.
Duh? It's anonymous.
It seems to be an alternative to the sign in option, so it doesn't seem like it.
LET'S GOOOOOOOO
That's awesome!
Does Proton VPN not work in China? I’m trying to use it for the first time on iPhone, both directly and via my already-known-good VPN (Mullvad) but I can’t get the first connection to make an account started either way.
You need to go to settings and under protocol select stealth. The other connection types are blocked in China.
Mullvad doesn't work here at all.
The most widespread one is Astrill, though it's quite pricey. Used to be the only one that works consistently; but Proton is a decent alternative.
I really love all of the proton products...
Except their VPN. I'm sorry, but their servers trip CAPTCHAs and cloud flare warnings more than 95% of the time for me no matter where I connect from. I really wish it wasn't like that because it makes the Internet fucking awful to use
Mullvad will just keep getting my 5/month on top of my proton sub, I guess...
Is proton vpn working in china? Im travelling there soon.
Tldr, probably not. Proton has an article saying no, but that article is older than their new Stealth protocol which was built to work better in anti-vpn environments.
I would also read this article which has some information you may find useful.
You guys rock - keep it up and I'll keep supporting