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I get it, Biden is old and that's a problem, but why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein's Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can't remember common names?

Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago (34 children)

Because, realistically, he won't listen.

Biden won't either, because he's already proved he can win this race and you don't retire a winning horse.

[–] Grebes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Trump has 88 really good reasons not to drop out. Without control of the justice system he’s going to be in jail for the rest of his life and republicans have shackled themselves to him.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Because suggesting your enemy do things is meaningless.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

I'd be thrilled if they both dropped out.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I think you misunderstand who is asking Biden to drop out and why.

Dems are interested in who is the DNC candidate and Republicans are interested in the GOP candidate.

Republicans as a whole are OK with Trump. He's not incredibly popular, but he has some achievements under his belt and has a relatively small but very loyal core group of voters. The average Republican believes that a) Trump has good chances of winning election and b) will likely move forward conservative policy objectives.

Therefore, why would they want him to drop out?

If we look on the other side at Biden. A growing group of people believe that he is not 100% mentally there because of his age. Because of this, not only does he a) have lower chances of winning the election but also b) is he really competent enough to be president? Sure, there's a sort of shadow administration behind him but people still put value in having a strong and mentally quick head of state.

Beyond that, there's also a small group of progressive voters who are unhappy with Biden's policies. He simply isn't a very effective leader and is one of the most unpopular presidents in US history. He's even more unpopular than Trump, who was also a deeply unpopular president.

So, people want Biden to resign because they believe other people would not only a better chance of winning election, but would be more effective leaders in terms of advancing DNC policy objectives.

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[–] fantasyocean@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 2 months ago

Why would he drop out? His racist and nonsensical ramblings are what Republicans/conservatives/the wealthy and his base want. It's leftist and some liberals who don't want that. Which is why there are calls for Biden to drop out. That's not complicated. I barely even understand how this is a question

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The people calling for Biden to drop out are supporters of his party, the democrats, who recognize that he’s unfit and incapable of winning. They want him to be replaced by someone else to increase their party’s chances of victory.

No one is calling for trump to drop out because he’s looking more fit in comparison to Biden and he’s projected to win. No one would call for a candidate to drop out when they’re in the lead if they support that candidates party.

Criminal allegations, true or false, don’t enter into it because America has a two tiered justice system where the wealthy and powerful are less beholden to the law than the rest of us and because presidency requires the violation of myriad international laws, norms and human rights.

The job title might as well be War Criminal in Chief and none of the allegations leveled at trump are disqualifying.

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[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

One thing I never understand is that all I ever hear about from Republicans is how old Biden is. While being true and not that I necessarily like Biden no one ever talks about how Trump is only three years younger. Biden has to answer for his age all the time but it's not a thing Trump typically deals with

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Different standards. Conservatives did this since the fall of kings, and doing this while want to reinstate them.

If the opponent messes up, they're incompetent. If they themselves, it's either someone else's problem, just part of being human, or try to cover it up with the media until everyone forgets it.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

I think you'll find that basically everyone on the left would like for Trump to step down. But it's a waste of breath to actually voice it.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

....is this a joke?

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

I would gladly have Trump drop out. It won't happen. Trump is running to save his own ass. For my part, I have grave doubts about Biden's ability to win that have been building for a few months but came sharply into focus during the first minute of that debate.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Because conservatives are cowards. It's that simple. They are afraid of those who may challenge them.

[–] codapine@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's like he's a real life Zaphod Beeblebrox, only far, far worse.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Republicans have no shame

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because

  • None of the above legally prevent him from running.
  • Republican voters will still vote for him en masse.

It's that simple.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Are you only counting insular social media bubbles like this one and/or media like CNN which takes that to be the default position and therefore doesn't repeat it ad nauseum, or do you mean you've been scoping out trumpsocial where you'd be more likely to see conservatives talking amongst themselves and so you'd be more likely to see that type of infighting? Cause maybe that's why.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Because we know he won't. He knows he's unwelcome by the majority of the people. That just makes his worshippers praise him even more.

What do you expect...Democrats ask him to step down because he's a convicted felon? He's gonna listen?

Republicans to have him step down...why? Because he said lies(that they believe) and sounded good saying them?

Biden we at least know is receptive. And he's got an amazing career behind him. Losing the presidency, as an incumbent, to Trump (the incumbent he just barely defeated four years ago when he exuded much more confidence when he spoke against him) would be a terrible way to end it.

There's nothing in the world more powerful than a good story.

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