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[–] br3d@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Important to know that real-world testing shows that PHEVs are rarely plugged in and just burn oil much of the time

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

That makes no sense. The entire point of a PHEV is that you can just plug it in at your house and drive to work for virtually free, well still being able to visit people who live a decent distance away on the weekends.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io -1 points 4 months ago

And burn even more than pure ICEs since they also carry the added weight from the electric stuff. At a time where we need much less cars overall, including EVs.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is a bit surprising to me tbh, Europe seems like the perfect place for little 100 mile range EV’s to kick ass. Over here in North America I can see hybrids being the current hot ticket because people regularly drive hundreds of miles for trips and work. Seems less common there but I may be wrong

[–] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Batteries are expensive, range causes anxiety, a small battery is possible in a hybrid thus price is lower

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah. Anxiety is something you have for first month owning your first EV. Once you adjust to the different way of using the car you realize you drive the same way as petroleum car. One important thing is being able to charge at home IMO. Even from just a socket (16A) is sufficient for most daily cases.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Charging at home is only for those who live in houses though. Or at least have some indoor parking spot.

[–] muppeth@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's undoubtedly perk of having a house, parking or dedicated spot. But even without those at least here in NL infrastructure as is is pretty good even for those without didcated charging spot. I thin what should be easily done is slow charging spot on every parting spot. Cost wise it's not much and pulling max 2.5kw should not be much of an issue for the grid. In that way every car would have a dedicated charging to fill up over night if needed. Cost of such implementation wouldn't be to big either.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago

That's cool. But I doubt every place they park on the street or in counts as an official "parking spot".

[–] lightnegative@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hybrids: the worst of both worlds.

If you want to keep relying on gasoline then just buy an ICE car

In the US they're the best of both worlds, especially if you get a plugin electric car. Charging infrastructure sucks for longer trips (fast charging is often broken or missing), and Americans like longer trips, so gas is preferred. But around town, it's nice to not need to fill up.

That may not be the case in Europe, idk.