this post was submitted on 06 May 2024
23 points (92.6% liked)

Star Trek

10613 readers
9 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.

New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?

Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.

2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.

3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.

4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.

5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.

6 Keep on-topicAll submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.

7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.

Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
11-21 LD 5x06 "Of Gods and Angles"
11-28 LD 5x07 "Fully Dilated"
12-05 LD 5x08 "Upper Decks"
12-12 LD 5x09 "Fissue Quest"
12-19 LD 5x10 "The New Next Generation"

Episode Discussion Archive

In Production

Strange New Worlds (2025)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)

In Development

Untitled comedy series

Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.

Allied Discord Server

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website
USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website
OpticalData@startrek.website
23
Were the [REDACTED] also a result of the Progenitors? DIS s5 spoilers (startrek.website)
submitted 6 months ago by USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website to c/startrek@startrek.website
5 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

So, the plot in season five of Disco is hunting down clues left behind by scientists who uncovered the technology left behind by a precursor race of alien beings who panspermiad their genetics all over the galaxy, resulting in all your favourite humanoids, like humans, Klingons, Romulans, and Cardassians, as seen in the TNG episode, "The Chase".

And the antagonists of the season are not actually the tragically dumb young lovers, Moll and L'ak, but instead appear to be the Breen. We've learned Breen are, as Captain William Shaw might say, goo people. Or at least they're semi-transparent so long as they're within the confines of their refrigeration suit. If L'ak is any indication they can take a more solid, humanoid form, but the Breen appear to prefer to be Sour Patch Kids.

I'm going to speculate that we will learn that the Breen are not actually one of the species who resulted from the Progenitors seeding the galaxy, and as such the Progenitor technology is of limited use for them.

top 5 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Writer Carlos Cisco has indicated that they conceptualized the Breen's solid form as an adaptation that they developed over time, which would track with your idea.

And "The Chase" certainly left some wiggle room for there to be species that were untouched by the Progenitors:

Our scientists seeded the primordial oceans of many worlds, where life was in its infancy. The seed codes directed your evolution toward a physical form resembling ours. This body you see before you, which is, of course, shaped as yours is shaped, for you are the end result.

[–] milkisklim@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I agree. We know that there are non-bipedal sapients (eg Tinman, Tholians, some Xindi, Belugas, etc) so there must be some species not made in the image of the Progenitors.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And the DMA aliens

[–] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago

Writer Carlos Cisco has indicated that they conceptualized the Breen’s solid form as an adaptation that they developed over time

Interesting.

It's completely unrelated to the current Disco story arc, but that does make me wonder if the Vorta and other Dominion species would have been aware of the Breen's goo form. The Changelings evolved the ability to shapeshift over time, but were originally solids. having the Breen start out as the soundtrack producers for the "Spider-Man & Venom: Maximum Carnage" video game, and later develop a solid form might seem anathema to the Founders and their worshipers.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago

I had a similar thought. So far Disco (unlike in "The Chase") has implied that the progenitors seeded all life. I have a feeling it's meant to throw us off the trail a bit.