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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dont trust duck duck go with your privacy. Corpos gonna corpo. Sooner or later...

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Then another one comes up, and the cycle continues

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I use Kagi. At least I'm the one paying.

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If it works for you... I agree with the general sentiment of "if its free you are the product". However, I see kagi come up so often around here that I feel like it's some astro turfing. I tried it and was not impressed. SearXNG is by far the best search engine I've used in a long time and the best part is I am hosting it locally on my PC, traffic is going out a VPN. You get the privacy and the best results possible since its a meta engine using many different engines.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I tried it and was not impressed

It is better than ddg and Brave, that much I can say. Brave especially have been shit recently.

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

Never used brave, I think DDG is actually a pretty decent search engine overall. I use it as my backup to searxng and used it primarily for years now before switching to searxng.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Didn't Google nuke SearX? Or did they only nuke public instances?

[–] mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

Google results work fine for me on my home instance:

[–] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

If so, I wonder if that timeline lines up with when I was trying SearX. For the first few days I was blown away by the results, and then suddenly they became absolute garbage. I ended up switching back to DDG.

[–] hedge@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

Wondering about this too 🤔

[–] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you are naive enough to believe that they are not collecting your data. Good for you and your peace of mind.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it's a good way to get sued if you straight up lie to paying customers

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cash out, get sued by angry customers, file for bankruptcy. Who cares about your public image being shattered when you are already gone with the wind?

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago

Well at least that gives them more incentive to stay clean compare to other search engines, no?

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago

These days, paying doesn't guarantee your exclusion from being the product. The only way to guarantee privacy is to design it into the product.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't trust Fuck (lol typo, it was an accident, f and d are really close!) DuckDuckGo and stopped using it since the "relevant" ads from Microsoft: https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/company/ads-by-microsoft-on-duckduckgo-private-search/ I personally don't trust them.

Rather use an open source search engine like SearxNG . If you don't want host your own search engine, then use a third-party hosted one: https://searx.space/ and probably switch from time to time. Sometimes the search results are slower or not as good, but that is a price I pay.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

FckFckGo. I see what you did there.

+1 for the SearxNG. That project deserves wide spread attention as far as I am concerned.

[–] papaya@possumpat.io 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Exactly this. I read the article in the post and thought it actually sounds like a nice service, but after getting this ad when searching "depression" on DDG last year, I don't think I'll ever trust them again lol.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't trust Fuck (lol typo, it was an accident, f and d are really close!)

FuckFuckNo

[–] cloudless@lemmy.cafe 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Who is going to watch the watchers?

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Nightweb@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] hedge@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

Thank you!🙂

[–] iMastari@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Another great site that does this and is promoted by Nord VPN: Incogni

[–] Mora@pawb.social 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Promoted by Nord VPN" is a red flag in itself.

[–] hedge@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Quexotic@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

It's been 3 hours so I decided to go ahead and look for myself and I'm thinking perhaps they are talking about this: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-with-law-enforcement-data-requests