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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I’ve used traefik for 7 years at this point and the only time I had to think about certificates was when I blocked my servers running traefik from making DNS calls needed for the cert generation.

I’ve got 6 domains now all with certs managed by traefik. Highly recommend checking it out, especially if you’re running most things in docker.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

I use certbot on only a single one of my oldest projects that has been going for almost a decade.

For everything else I use acme.sh because it works so well and integrates with a ton of DNS providers. The one time I had an issue, it was already fixed in a PR, so I just checked out that fixed version and used it for renewals until it was merged in.

[–] pztrn@bin.pztrn.name 1 points 6 months ago

Using Caddy for couple of years already at home, yet using certbot at job, because of requirements to use nginx as balancer.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 1 points 6 months ago

cert-manager works really well.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No. Not everyone uses traefik or caddy

[–] BenPranklin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah man, that's the point of the article. Its asking the question "should everyone who isnt using them already move to them". Its not saying everyone already does.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Certbot is so problematic we still pay for most of our certificates because it’s more reliable.

I’m not sure if Caddy/Traefik is the answer but it’s clear the work should be handed over to a team with a proper focus on reliability.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate on this reliability issue?

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Certbot is supposed to automatically renew certificates. It doesn't do that reliably in my experience.

We use it on non-critical systems and every few months I need to go in and fix things... that never happens with traditional certificates - those are setup and forget.

As for the exact problems, I don't think we've ever had the same problem twice. It's always a once off thing but it's still an hour of wasted time each and every time. If it happened on a proper production system it'd be a lot more than an hour, since whatever change is made would need a full gamut of testing / reporting / etc.