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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Biden: Kinda meh

Eppstein-Friend Trump: Hitler 2.0

Its not a choice, but more a test for basic cognitive function. One which republicans routinely fail.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Not to take away from your point or distract from how bad Trump is -- but Biden is not even kinda meh; he's actually affirmatively been doing a great job. Funny story, I actually didn't realize how much good stuff he'd been doing until I started arguing with shills on Lemmy who were bashing him left and right with clever little engineered talking points. Here's some of what Biden's done:

  • He took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It's way too late but that's clearly not Biden's fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for "let's ignore it until we're underwater and on fire" US politician status quo.
  • He ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no. He's still managed to forgive $138 billion worth of it even against stiff Republican "no we need that money to give to Wall Street criminals pls" resistance.
  • He introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate.
  • He achieved the lowest unemployment in 20 years after having been handed an economy that was still digging out from the apocalypse that was 2020.
  • After having spent several months engaged in absolutely war-criminal support for Israel's genocide in Gaza, he's now put sanctions on Israeli settlers for the first time in history, is putting the US military on the ground in Gaza after having publicly clashed with Netanyahu about the war, and is directly feeding starving Gazans. Does that mean a real reversal of the worst piece of the US's has-some-pretty-fucking-bad-pieces longstanding foreign policy? Er... fuck. Maybe. I don't know. Let's see. But he's showing some little stumbling signs of humanity as regards our Israel policy, which is un heard of for a US politician.

Did you know all that shit? I didn't. As recently as a few weeks ago I was describing him as "center-right" simply because he's a popular Democrat, but I think he might actually be kinda good. Which for a president is vanishingly rare.

So, yes, I think there could be two worse options. Not than Trump, Trump is the end of the world in human skin. But yes I think pretty much any presidential candidate since Al Gore would be a worse option than Biden.

Hey OP: Want to continue the conversation about Biden's marijuana policy? You said Biden could fix it all if he just would take action, and I asked what precise step you were asking him to do (beyond a federal legalization bill, pardons for federal prisoners, and asking the DEA to reschedule it), and then you fell silent instead of taking the chance to explain your position more. (As these accounts tend to do)

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

I know all that stuff and I still don't wanna vote for him. I will, don't worry. But he's still pretty far to the right of me politically.

[–] Hominine@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

a test for basic cognitive function

Can we get one shipped to OP?

[–] Haus@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Clinton/Trump, for one. Although there are literally billions of answers.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Every time Biden says or does something stupid, I try to take a moment to appreciate that at least we didn't get Michael Bloomberg instead

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Orban/Putin/Xi - with Xi threatening to split the authoritarian vote and be a king maker.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure. Trump and his dad, Satan.