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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" 🤦‍♂️

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[–] resketreke@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was a matter of time. They'll give us a stupid name to refer to us from now on soon enough too.

[–] Blasphemous@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Might I suggest Lemmigrants?

[–] c0c0c0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] StankFlipper@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

The comments/replies to my comments that really chapped my ass were when someone was defending ads and trying to claim they didn't even know there were third party apps and we were just being babies. I don't want to have to watch two unskippable ads like YouTube just to see a meme or comment in an AskReddit or be bombarded with gas pill ads between every front page post because I typed "why am I farting more than normal?" In a toolbar five years ago, and I'm not being a baby because I don't want to give up my working product for a shit alternative that turns me into a product. I feel like Reddit is Pied Piper from 'Silicon Valley' where they hired a shit load of trolls in an office in New Delhi to gaslight us and drive up support for a highly disliked business path.

[–] Liempong_pagong@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Let them stay there then. We can't force people to join us here. If they choose to believe those kind of brigading comments then they do not have the level of critical thinking to become a meaningful contributor to any site. Those who wanted to move have already moved. Those remaining there are those who chose to ignore the issue, or support reddit.

[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's what it felt like for me after I posted anything lol. But is it bots, is it Reddit themselves?

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

As long as they do it on Reddit I really don‘t care anymore. Probably with the IPO Reddit will run all sorts of "opinion forming" bots and ban dissidents and so on to make sure they seem like they got the community behind them.

I just hope they leave us alone here and mostly anti-spez people come to form new communities here.

[–] ImDonaldDunn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you”

Honestly, it would not shock me if Reddit HQ was amplifying these comments. They are going to do everything they can to ensure that their IPO goes well. All we can hope for is for someone to blow the whistle.

[–] roving6478@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place is becoming an echo chamber.

I don't doubt that there are bots in the comments on Reddit (as if that can even be disputed) but pretending like nobody could possibly just not be interested in moving to lemmy is wrong. There's lots of teething troubles here still which need to be resolved before most people will consider it. Whinging about astroturfing comment sections isn't gonna make dankmemes or pcmasterrace come to lemmy.

[–] c0c0c0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've spoken to people IRL who say that the protests are pointless, even if I show them a new community growing because of them. There is probably some shenanigans involved in the volume of anti-protest activity, but there are plenty Redditors with Stockholm Syndrome to give them credibility

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Dunno if you were around then, but people on Digg acted the same way toward Reddit before Digg crashed.

If we stay on this platform and continue to grow and create content, then when Reddit again does something to annoy its years (they probably will), we can be here to take advantage.

The downside is that every great growth in users will affect the platform/site culture, not always for the better. It depends on the users and the size of the migration.

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I keep seeing posts about how Lemmy isn't an alternative because of the main developer's political views. Like this one: https://teddit.net/r/APIcalypse/comments/140qymq/lemmy_is_not_a_viable_reddit_replacement/

What does it even matter? It's open-source.

[–] cranstonapple@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I’d honestly be happy if the people who are swayed away from Lemmy for that reason stayed away from Lemmy. I don’t at all agree with the developer there and anyone who posts that kind of thing is gross. But anyone sensitive enough to take that as a reason to stay away from Lemmy is super annoying and I’m happy they aren’t here.

[–] Micromot@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Reading the OP in that post argue physically hurts me, they just seem to be such an annoying person

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[–] angrytoadnoises@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy is pretty dense to a newcomer, especially one who is used to the centralized web. But that's okay - we don't need Lemmy to replace Reddit. Just like Mastodon, this 'temporary exodus' is only beneficial for this platform.

Even when the drama 'blows over' and Reddit is back to its usual status, we will have gained a huge amount of new users interested in a decentralized web. As long as there are enough users for Lemmy, I think that's okay.

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