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I always assumed credit scores were an integral and historic part of the American financial system.

They were not, they are very recent,most of your parents didn't have credit scores growing up, and as you can probably tell or at least intuit, it's mostly just a b******* scheme for those with capital to accrue more capital by invading your privacy.

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[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

FICO is kinda stupid in some ways but with responsibility it's not hard to get a decent rate/favorable score. Yes at the top end is dumb you need to open more credit but in practice that's not hard to do assuming you aren't just forced by circumstances to just live off credit.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It only takes one mistake to absolutely crater years of effort.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It takes one pretty big fucking mistake to crater years of effort. I understand it does happen, usually around homes and employment, to which I would agree we need protections. It's not for small shit.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

FICO and VantageScore aren’t even looked at when they do a full credit record pull when you apply for something. Reviewers look straight at your history directly and make decisions based on that. Scores are for laypeople to get a general idea of how their history might appear to a reviewer, but every lender has their own criteria.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yup, and it becomes very apparent when you get into home loans vs credit lines. The verification goes way up since the last housing crisis.

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I remember when I started my first job back in 2003 it was extremely rare to have someone pay with a credit card.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Huh, I worked a convenience store/gas station in the late 90s and credit cards were at least half of the sales. Heck, it was kind of funny when someone used a card for candy bar that cost less than a dollar.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I worked at a movie theater and credit cards could only be to purchase tickets and not concessions so that may have had something to do with it

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[–] Lemmygizer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where did you work? What kind of Boomer clients did you serve?

I worked fast food in '03, it was closer to 50/50.

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[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I did. I'm near 40 was about to enter college and credit and debit cards were everywhere. I've never handled much cash my entire life.

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Weird, about half of the sales during that time period for me were with plastic, but I lived in a city, so maybe that's the difference.

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

They are new in the rest of the world. But we don't Need them. Thanks please.

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