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I run a few groups, like @fediversenews@venera.social, mostly on Friendica. It's okay, but Friendica resembles Facebook Groups more than Reddit. I also like the moderation options that Lemmy has.

Currently, I'm testing jerboa, which is an Android client for Lemmy. It's in alpha, has a few hiccups, but it's coming along nicely.

Personally, I hope the #RedditMigration sours adoption of more Fediverse server software. And I hope Mastodon users continue to interact with Lemmy and Kbin.

All that said, as a mod of a Reddit community (r/Sizz) I somewhat regret giving Reddit all that content. They have nerve charging so much for API access!

Hopefully, we can build a better version of social media that focuses on protocols, not platforms.

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[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Enjoying it, but wondering if I'm missing a way to work backwards to find communities.

I'll give an example - Sleep Token, a band I like, released an album not too long ago. If I Google "reddit sleep token", I can see a few communities like /r/metalcore and /r/progmetal discussing them, so I can guess I might want to join those communities.

If I Google for "lemmy sleep token", I get a bunch of random websites with articles about sleep token with links and quotes about motorhead.

Whats the strategy for working backwards like that on Lemmy? Is there one?

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[–] nowami@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What I'm really impressed by is being able to follow Lemmy communities from within Mastodon... e.g. by searching @technology@beehaw.org I can see threads and posts without leaving my Mastodon app of choice (Tusky). It's amazing how it just works.

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[–] Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

coming along well, will take a while for users to spread out and not just mass on one large server, we need to spread out to keep this working and viable for the future.

To do that however, we need better ways to find communities on other instances, and more easily link to them with links that work on each users instance URLs. at the moment if I do !technology@beehaw.org or !technology@lemmy.ml those will take you off your current instance unless you are already on it, losing your login. The average user wont expect that and might not even notice they are on a totally different website and wonder why their logins don't work.

Apparently all of this as well as aggregated topic subscriptions (so you don't need to find and subscribe to 10 different communities for one topic) are being worked on, that will be very cool.

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[–] omarciddo@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's hardly been 24 hours, but this is the most engaged I've felt in an online space in years. I've gone on a k.bin/Lemmy/Mastodon tear over the past day, exploring instances and looking for the one that I vibe with the most. So far I've been very happy with Beehaw as my home base, and love that I still have access to the communities on the other instances as well. It takes a slight bit of effort to find communities and make sure that I'm subscribed to them on this account, but I've actually found some satisfaction in the process.

Sure, there's a low volume of content compared to the old place, but if I wanted a constant barrage of content I could just go back to RSS readers and have my fill. It's the discussion and sense of connection that has made it worth investing my time here.

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[–] eleanorOpossum@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I like pretty well. I've been on reddit for over a decade now, and the UI on Lemmy is kinda like a combination of the good parts of old and new reddit to me.

People here are nice (maybe that's because my home instance is Beehaw...); and I like the small community.

[–] Nerdlinger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As with other things in the fediverse, discoverability is pretty ass. It's a bit easier on Lemmy to find something you're looking for than it is, say, to find interesting people to follow on mastodon, but it's still not great. And often, you'll find multiple communities on the same topic and you have to try to figure out which one looks like it will be better down the road (communities are still pretty dead and empty, so you can't tell now which might be better). In addition to that, the interfaces for interacting with Lemmy are pretty rough at the moment, though that's not surprising.

So do I like it? Enh… I'd say it's a 4/10 right now with promise of getting better. Will it? Who knows?

[–] MattyXarope@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And often, you'll find multiple communities on the same topic and you have to try to figure out which one looks like it will be better down the road

I think that inevitability what will happen is that apps will have to feature a "category" feature where you videos clusters of communities at once. So if there are 2 gaming communities, you could group them, then click on the group to view all of the posts as if it were one subreddit.

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[–] araly@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

so far it's really nice, it's what I liked in reddit and before that forums, without being what reddit became.

the fediverse is hard though, but it kinda makes sense. I'll see if I get more used to it

[–] jzefbeio54@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'm still confused by the instance decentralized structure. And my feed seems chaotic. But so far I'm liking it !

[–] yopla@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's interesting but I still think the federated universe still has too many quirks to be understandable by most people. To be honest, I haven't bothered documenting myself so I might say stupid things but I can't understand why identity is tied to a server, it seems like a terrible design mistake when it's obviously the first thing i'd want to decentralise. In short, I'm me, it shouldn't matter that I'm on beehaw, lemmy or some random mastodon or kbin server. Huge mistake imho.

Then the content obviously needs a lot more contributors but many of the good reddit contributors where also mostly tech illiterate and I'm still worried that the high complexity to enter the fediverse will put off many people and keep it a fun, but somewhat boring, little niche.

[–] wiredfire@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Your ID doesn’t need to be tied to any given server. You can move around and change your “home” server at will. Or if preferred you could stand up your own server for your usage, hold your identify on there, and still engage with the rest of Lemmy / fediverse.

It’s less a design mistake and more a technical constraint. A users identify exists as, at a minimum, a database entry. That database needs to live somewhere that the various fediverse servers can talk to. But you have complete freedom in where that database entry is, and can change your mind later.

So it already doesn’t matter if you’re on beehaw, lemmy or some random mastodon or kbin server - they all federate with each other (to varying degrees but that’s a slightly different conversation)

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[–] kemo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

UX wise its okay, content wise, we are getting there. I am also happy its written in Rust, I am keen to contribute to the project in the future.

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[–] iamliterallysatan@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like it so far. However, I do have some questions.

  1. How do we handle "dupe" communities?
  2. What's the best way to find new communities?
  3. How are cross-posts handled across servers?
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[–] notexecutive@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I like it - I just want a few Reddit-ish features:

  1. Hiding reply chains for scrolling cleanliness in comments of a post
  2. Hiding posts on the main page should be easy to do (buttons unclear)
  3. Dedicated copy link button - so it's clear I'm copying the link to the page that is being spoken about in a post, rather than a link to the comments of the post itself.
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[–] jacktherippah@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I love it actually. I feel like there is a stronger sense of community here. It's encouraging me to engage more whereas I would just lurk on Reddit. I also like the UI, both on desktop and on Jerboa for Android.

[–] kalipike@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

Overall it's pretty good! With more development on Jerboa and better backend performance and an influx of people, I think it'll be fantastic. I'm pretty pleased thus far!

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

My only issue so far is that it can be difficult to find a particular post if you don't remember which community and instance it was on, afaik there's no search across all posts in all instantiations.

[–] archon@dataterm.digital 7 points 1 year ago

It's buggy, but I'm managing. Weird things like having to press the "Subscribe" button twice. I'm assuming most will be solved when traffic stabilizes.

The federation is.. strange. Confusing when I click a link to another instance when trying to subscribe to a community, but also kinda cool how it works. I'm not sure federation should really be a concern for users, but time will tell. I'm sure it will only improve.

[–] Nonameuser678@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Still getting the hang of things. There's definitely a learning curve compared to reddit. Been using reddit for 10+ years and there has been a noticeable decline in the last few years. Things are quite fragmented at the moment and unfortunately the majority of my communities are still only active on reddit.

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[–] PurrJPro@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

As sad as I am by how Reddit turned out, this was the kick I needed to start truly indulging in the fediverse! Everybody's been nice so far, and I hope that it continues to be that way

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I'm also testing out jerboa atm. And it's a bit rough around the edges, but gets the job done well enough. Still haven't explored too much of the Lemmyverse, but looking forward to digging in a bit deeper.

[–] Gary@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

It's great to see decentralization in action to foster a thriving community, not just to make/gamble money.

[–] godless@latte.isnot.coffee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I quite like it so far, though the users of the communities I've been moderating are not necessarily the most tech savvy and may not find their way here, despite instructions and plenty of prior announcements.

So ultimately I feel like throwing 1.5M people to the wolves (though some other mods might stick around, who knows).

On the other hand, I might also have outgrown some of my communities, and just stuck around due to the familiarity. Joined reddit in my mid 20s, now I'm pushing 40.

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[–] dska22@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I think it will take time to smooth few rough edges but already now it's usable.

However I have big concerns on how this structure can scale, it already suffers with few thousands users. Plus security, privacy and sustainability of the fediverse is still a big question mark to me.

But it's exciting and I hope it will be the future of socials.

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[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I love it. It feels like a more niche community (that's a plus). There's a strong sense of community here. I also like the UI (except for kbin--which I know isn't Lemmy--I can't seem to collapse comments there). Is it a little janky? Yes--and I'd argue that's part of the charm, sometimes.

[–] sprightlycompanion@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

I still don't quite understand how it works, instances and all that.. but I'll figure it out, and I'm here for the cause.

[–] czech@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Havn't tried Lemmy yet... does my comment show up alright coming from fedia.io? The fediverse is neat.

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[–] Raitontime@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s been great so far. I’ve mostly been using Mlem on IOS. Still early in development but it gets better everyday. Even though I was on Reddit for 8+ years I have no intentions on going back to it. There is great potential here and I hope we can tap in to it.

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