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What is your experience with loxone? What is it worth to integrate with it? (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by danielo515@lemmy.world to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world

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We are moving to a new house, and I want to build a foundation in something more reliable as homeassistant and zigbee. I looked at KNX and it is ridiculously expensive (170 euros for a pir sensor is a joke). So as an alternative I'm looking at loxone, which seems to be a cheaper alternative to KNX. Do you have experience with it? How good is it? What kind of things are worth automating with loxone? They have a lot of solutions, but I'm not sure if they are all worth it. I am already sold about the lights, but what about multi room audio? Light, motion, temperature sensors?

Any experience/testimonials are welcome

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[–] realitista@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

There's quite cheap knx stuff on Ali Baba.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Loxone is not worth it lately. Their device quality has gone down, integration of other services is intentionally made difficult these days and overall support is lacking. I wouldn't buy them, even more considering that you are vendor bound and always need a central component/server for it to work.

KNX has a very broad pricing range - from very cheap to very expensive there is basically everything, there are countless PIRs for less than 100€ and some for over 400€.

A well planned KNX install isn't that much more expensive (10% on average)than a conventional install and the last Loxone install estimate I saw for a project was over 20% more than KNX.

Depends on what manufacturers and suppliers you want. Go with MDT (but avoid the GTs).

[–] danielo515@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is great feedback, thank you very much. So far I only talked to a loxone comercial, and another installer that works both with knx and loxone, and that person has recommended loxone. Do you know if loxone gives incentives to their installers ?

[–] philpo@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Yes.Some/a lot depending on how much you sell. And of course for an installer a walled garden is much much more convenient instead of a open standard. And it's much cheaper for them as they don't need an ETS licence, don't need an overview of hundreds of components and the certificates are cheaper/free as well - unlike KNX.