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People will never learn to not preorder games. I have no hope for humanity at this point.

Stop. Preordering.

They never learn do they ?

DON'T PREORDER SHIT YOU STUPID

Well this is sad.

$70 for a Bethesda game that will come out broken is just insane to me. I'll pick it up a year or so after release at a discount when the game is actually decent

It'd be bad enough if this were just another AAA over hyped deal.

This is literally Bethesda. What are these people smoking?

If this gets us another Internet Historian video on the fallout, then this is worth it.

• Pun unintended.

Rule 1 of Bethesda. Don't pre order Rule 1 if space games. Don't pre order

I won't even consider buying until it's been out for at least a year or two. By then the major bugs will have been fixed and all the content added.

Why are people preordering a DIGITAL, BETHESDA game?! It's still the Creation Engine (Creation Engine 2 so hopefully they fixed it!) so it's probably gonna be a buggy mess at release.

Another proof for publishers that they only need big promises and nice trailers to sell their game, nevermind the state they ship it in

It looks good in the marketing (it always does) but we should all remember that it’s Bethesda making this. Then again, I can’t even name a developer that I would say “hell yeah, this is gonna be awesome!” at this point. The very sad state of the industry.

Preordering is dumb, preordering in 2023 when it's 50/50 whether any given PC port is going to be a total mess is dumb

I genuinely can't believe people preorder games but especially Bethesda games, which are notoriously buggy at launch and have tons of issues.

People still preorder games at full price even after all the controversies... Ngl the game looks sexy and may be a big hit but the price is a big no

I'm really excited as well, but man... Don't think I've preordered anything in... Like ten years?

On reddit, there was a sub I sometimes frequented called /r/patientgamers. Was good to have some compatriots in either waiting for sales or just enjoying old games because they're still fun.

Only two times did I relent and buy games at full price over the last few years. BOTW and Spider-Man PS4 (which I actually just got bundled with my late entry into owning a PS4).

Considering this is Bethesda, as much as I like them, I might just renew my Game Pass subscription for this, rather than pay full price. (Side note: I'm 100% expecting the Game Pass price to jump just before Starfield is released.)

Once it's on sale, I'll get it on Steam because I can guarantee the modding scene is going to have way more freedom there than they'll have with the Windows Store version.

So maybe play it near release on GP, buy it a few months later on Steam.

It'll take a few months for major mods to start hitting the scene anyway because they won't release the Creation Kit immediately. Of course, a lot of mods will be out there within a few days, but I'm expecting it to be mostly unofficial patches (thank fuck the community has agreed on ignoring Arthmoor and doing it with open permissions this time) and silly nonsense like replacing models or whatever, plus a few cheaty things here and there.

Nobody has ever been burned by preordering, so I'm not seeing the downside here.

Preordering is just giving a multimillion dollar company a free loan of your own money.

Do not preorder ffs...

i will say, one of my favorite parts about bethesda games is that basically everybody agrees going in that this game is not gonna be anywhere close to done. we're all gonna see a fuckton of bugs and it'll be the subject of ridicule for years. but, still, we will all unflinchingly call it one of the best games ever.

Pre-ordering digitally distributed games is so pointless, but even more so right now. At least wait for the review embargo to end.

But it's even worse with a Bethesda game.

It really feels like people never learn with these pre-orders.

I'm going to feel absolutely no sympathy and simply laugh at anyone who bought the game and gets upset about how shitty it is.

I can't wait for the launch day bug compilations Either way, can't wait to pick up the game in two years at 30-40$ with all the dlc

Thats is pretty gross. Why is that the greater community continues to pre-order everything!

I've been buying Bethesda RPGs without waiting for reviews since 2007. They've all had their rough spots but not a single one has disappointed me. Despite their issues I put hundreds of hours into each one and enjoyed them all. I see no reason to think this won't be the same, and have no problem betting $70 on it. I pre-ordered last night on Xbox.

Damn it, what ever happened to no pre-orders. People never learn, do they?

The game looks promising, from what i have seen.

Few questions remain: Will it dethrone Jedi Survivor as worst performing game? Will it surpass Redfall in it's emptyness? Does it have a chance fighting LOTR Gollum in "Most 2023ish game of the year"? Or will it truly be a Masterpiece? (Hint: Masterpieces don't get released in 2023).

We will find out at release. Together with those that preorderd.

pre-ordering is bad mmmkay

Stuff like this is the reason game companies continue to release unfinished games, they're breaking even before they even release. Stop pre-ordering games people!

I officially hate everyone who preorders digital games. There is absolutely no justification for it. If you preorder, youre the reason modern gaming sucks.

Same price as Gollum, decisions decisions