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[–] AnagrammadiCodeina@feddit.it 68 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I'm pissed about r/pcmasterrace not protesting. Anyone knows why?

in general I would assume any subs not participating are run by mods who value their mod status more than the quality of their community

[–] notun@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Because the only people left there are the ones that forgot it was a joke.

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[–] GingerNeko@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Wow, you can't even login to reddit to check what subs are black now. Must be getting hammered to death...

[–] Aetina@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unexpected attack on reddit? Hopefully it just makes the admins more butthurt that their userbase rejects their choices, but also, hopefully the subs that did stay open (to help people, like r ukraine or self help subs) aren't interrupted too much...

[–] 15Redstones@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can open r/ukraine on RIF. 3rd party apps still work.

[–] bigmanjezza@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

that's irony

[–] maniajack@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most will shut down on June 30 when reddit is overcharging to use the api, essentially to force them out and make you use their app with tracking and advertising.

[–] 15Redstones@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's why I'm here. Ironic that the current status is that the site is down but 3rd party apps work..

Site seems to be back up now.

[–] Sprawl@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t even want to login to give them a hit.

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Reddit is just boycotting itself. Nothing to see here

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[–] heliumlake@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The amount of dark subreddits is wild. I'm pessimistic that this will create any meaningful change on the platform, but really hoping either way that alternatives not backed by corporations will grow and compete.

[–] Rezex@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If nothing else its forced people to consider the need for an alternative and to open their eyes to places like Tilde/Lemmy/Kbin/etc. It may not be much now, but over time if reddit continues it's shitty behaviour and people now know these alternatives exist, more and more people can move over.

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[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

If nothing else it's been very entertaining.

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[–] Kissing_Ash@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So are subreddits still planning to stay shut for only 2 days or are we extending that? Because 2 days does not seem enough for this.

[–] 0485919158191@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of subreddits will stay closed indefinitely.

[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I feel this won't happen. If big subs continue to be dark too long, the reddit admins would simply remove the hostile volunteer mods and reopen the subs. The mods are used to being gods of their little domains. If they cross the line, they will be reminded that they own nothing. They can obey reddit or they can be replaced.

That is what I see in the future for any mods that try to hold subs hostage indefinitely.

[–] NotYourSocialWorker@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A possible problem is that they would be forced to find new volunteers to run them. While I bet there's many who want to be "gods" I bet it's harder to find people who can do it well enough to run a 10+ million forum. Especially hamstringed by reddits lack of modtools.

So sure, Reddit can remove the mods and do it multiple times but it will continuously lead to a worse experience and sooner or later an unacceptable amount of spam, hate and CP will cause the advertisers to pull their ads.

[–] taj@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is absolutely true. There are often calls for 'anyone want to mod' on even smaller subs... and you know, it sounds fun to a lot of folks at first. But if you've ever actualy been a mod, even of a smaller community online? It loses its appeal very quickly.

[–] wbgraphic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Real-world equivalent: β€œYou should run for HOA President!”

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[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel like ad revenue is not their top monetization priority personally. It's speculation of course. But I think they are learning that the free content the users create will generate much more revenue from mega corps who want access to all of it to train emerging AIs. Data, specifically YOUR data is valuable. What posts do you look at? What do you upvote? What do you downvote? What subreddits do you subscribe to? There is a wealth of information they will monetize. This is why I think they don't care that the little app devs can't afford their new API pricing. They can't give the app devs one price then think Microsoft, Google, Apple and other multi-billion dollar corps would pay a higher price.

Again, this is just my speculation. But the suddenness and the exorbitant price means they want to act now, and capitalize on this new market while it's good. Their terms of service specifically say everything you post, you give them a license to use, sell, or sub-license without dispute, forever. This isn't about ads.

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I'd like to see the mods wipe the subs on their way out if reddit continues to ignore the community.

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I think at least some are waiting to see how reddit responds but I'm guessing they will continue to ignore the community and carry on with their bullshit

[–] pyeri@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two major subs called /r/technology and /r/programming just went dark. This seems to have reached great levels now considering that CEO /u/spez himself is a senior mod on /r/programming sub.

At this point, I think the most visited and interesting subs are already down on reddit, love to hear any exceptions which are still up and running.

[–] rbits@lemmy.fmhy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

AskReddit is still up, despite the number of posts I've seen on the subreddit asking for it to join.

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[–] adamsw216@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like Reddit is completely down now. Frontpage hasn't loaded for 15 or 20 minutes.

[–] 15Redstones@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (24 children)

That probably won't last given Spez's bullshit, but I gotta say, Lemmy is looking pretty promising. The Jeroba mobile app is a little underwhelming though, voting and replying to comments is a hassle. Maybe the RIF dev will make a Lemmy app or help improve Jeroba.

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[–] PC509@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice seeing so many of those that I visit often are dark. Before the blackout, there was talk of if they should go permanently. But, those discussions will happen after things go back. With Spez being a dipshit about it still, I'm thinking several of them will leave Reddit forever. I'm good with it.

[–] rjd@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've taken my subs down for the couple of days as a starting point. Not sure I plan to bring them back up until there is change but we'll see what happens

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[–] Mutisi0n@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

8 years, 11 months.

I'm going dark in solidarity. 100 minutes to go in my time zone.

Goodbye, u/mutisi0n. Goodbye, Reddit. It's been real.

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[–] FreezingInFuckingHell@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Holy shit over 2.5 billion combined subscribers. I've also been seeing quite a few people deleting their accounts, myself included.

[–] notun@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's kind of a useless stat considering the amount of overlap.

[–] rexxiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Same here, I'm planning to delete my account on 06-30 and append a message to all my comments why I did so.

[–] catlover@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Would be nice to see a graph over time

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Congrats to...checks notes.../r/earfetish for being the 1000th to go dark lol

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[–] matt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

I decided to check the front page (as in /r/popular, what people see by default) out of morbid curiosity since most of Reddit has gone dark now, and honestly it’s like nothing has changed for the casual user.

The biggest subs with the most traffic haven’t gone dark at all, and all the same posts and popular stuff still fill the front page, so for many people I suspect they’re not even going to feel this, but maybe it’s a bit too premature to be making this conclusion, let’s see what happens.

EDIT: I was somewhat premature with this post, even /r/popular is pretty barren as things move nowhere near as fast. That being said, it's disappointing to see how much is still open, and how some subreddits (such as /r/pcmasterrace) are clearly missing the point by allowing "certain posts".

[–] lawliot@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

I just checked all and popular, the top posts are all about the blackout. It did feel a bit empty, which is good.

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[–] einsofohr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

many will have a cake day this week, it will be an indication of a fellow refugee hahaha

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