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Official announcements from the Lemmy project. Subscribe to this community or add it to your RSS reader in order to be notified about new releases and important updates.

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This is a chance for any users, admins, or developers to ask anything they'd like to myself, @nutomic@lemmy.ml , SleeplessOne , or @phiresky@lemmy.world about Lemmy, its future, and wider issues about the social media landscape today.

NLNet Funding

First of all some good news: We are currently applying for new funding from NLnet and have reached the second round. If it gets approved then @phiresky@lemmy.world and SleeplessOne will work on the paid milestones, while @dessalines and @nutomic will keep being funded by direct user donations. This will increase the number of paid Lemmy developers to four and allow for faster development.

You can see a preliminary draft for the milestones. This can give you a general idea what the development priorities will be over the next year or so. However the exact details will almost certainly change until the application process is finalized.

Development Update

@ismailkarsli added a community statistic for number of local subscribers.

@jmcharter added a view for denied Registration Applications.

@dullbananas made various improvements to database code, like batching insertions for better performance, SQL comments and support for backwards pagination.

@SleeplessOne1917 made a change that besides admins also allows community moderators to see who voted on posts. Additionally he made improvements to the 2FA modal and made it more obvious when a community is locked.

@nutomic completed the implementation of local only communities, which don't federate and can only be seen by authenticated users. Additionally he finished the image proxy feature, which user IPs being exposed to external servers via embedded images. Admin purges of content are now federated. He also made a change which reduces the problem of instances being marked as dead.

@dessalines has been adding moderation abilities to Jerboa, including bans, locks, removes, featured posts, and vote viewing.

In other news there will soon be a security audit of the Lemmy federation code, thanks to Radically Open Security and NLnet.

Support development

@dessalines and @nutomic are working full-time on Lemmy to integrate community contributions, fix bugs, optimize performance and much more. This work is funded exclusively through donations.

If you like using Lemmy, and want to make sure that we will always be available to work full time building it, consider donating to support its development. Recurring donations are ideal because they allow for long-term planning. But also one-time donations of any amount help us.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (10 children)

How do you feel about extreme right-wing instances like the late Wolfballs using Lemmy to promote and spread hate?

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[–] silas@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As developers, what can we do (or not do) to best support Lemmy’s vision and goals right now?

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[–] jawa21@startrek.website 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I post a fair amount of video edits. I've had quite a few people say that video playback is far from ideal for not just Lemmy, but the Fediverse as a whole. Is this mostly a 3rd party app thing, or a backend issue? I haven't had much issue myself, but enough people have mentioned it that there is likely an issue somewhere down the line.

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[–] hendrik@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

How's development going? Do you have enough funds to pay your salaries? Did the EU fund run out? What's your workload? Is the amount of full-time developers enough to work on new features? Or is it barely enough to keep up?

How do you like Lemmy and the people on it? (As of now)

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago

I'm personally working a full time job in addition to this. However, I spend a lot of my free time contributing because if the only software I worked on was the corpo shit at my dayjob that ends up being cancelled before it reaches production half the time, I'd go insane.

I've found the people pretty good. I find it's easier to get a sense of community on here than it is on big tech platforms.

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Will the source code ever move off of proprietary Microsoft GitHub where users need to have an account to contribute & search code—or certain users are blocked due to US sanctions? If the idea is wanting to stand up against centralized US-corpo-controlled social media for forums, why use that US-megacorpate-controlled code forge / social media platform?

[–] phiresky@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree that it's not ideal to be hosted on a platform controlled by Microsoft, but it's just a fact that you lose 90+% of contributors if you are anywhere else (there's an article where someone compared, can't find it right now). It's not great that that's how it is, but you need to choose your battles.

I'm not really very concerned, since git itself is decentralized, and if Github starts causing visible problems moving somewhere else is not a huge problem. Also VPNs exist.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is there any new p2p/decentral technology that is trying to advance beyond federation?

It would be cool to have a generic framework to make web resources that are inherently decentralized without the need for sponsor and hosting.

Like IPFS but as a social site. Everyone helps partially host content in exchange for access to all the content.

[–] phiresky@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There is a ton of decentralized projects that no one has really ever heard of, new ones pop up all the time (I was watching multiple of them in the past). Sadly in most cases it seems like most authors stop working on their projects after a while.

The same ideas have existed for a long time but both decade old projects (ever heard of Freenet? Probably no) and new ones . Many of them are very ambitious and try to replace huge swaths of things (not just file storage but also social aspects, web of trust, etc) but then collapse under the complexity. IPFS is the most well known new project and (good imo) has limited its scope, but sadly (still) suffers from huge scalability issues, some of which are deep in the design.

I think it's really hard to align incentives there - the nicer it is the harder it is to make money with it. So either these projects tend towards control by one entity or they tend towards death.

Really the only one that seems to have a long lasting life so far is torrents. Which are amazing. And Email if you want to count that.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A long time ago, @Dessalines@lemmy.ml made Jerboa as an Android Native client for Lemmy as an alternative to Boost for Reddit. How happy are you that the OG Boost developer came and made a Lemmy client?

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Any words for Zuck and Threads?

Edit: on a more serious note, has Meta reached out to the Lemmy developers at all?

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[–] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (10 children)

What is currently in the works to help admins locate spammers and problematic users on their instance?

Right now I believe it relies heavily on users reporting and admins looking through a users history however I think that is really inefficient.

Are there any better visualization tools that could be made to aid admins?

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[–] J12@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] phiresky@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I think flairs would be the same as user-tagging. There's an open proposal for post-tagging https://github.com/LemmyNet/rfcs/pull/4 and the discussion there was so far to add tagging for one type of thing and then later expand to others (like user tagging).

It's a bit of a complicated feature because it needs decision who can tag whom, and what is the scope (who is it federated two), and how does it transfer / interact with other ActivityPub software.

[–] pocketman_stuck@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is for all Lemmy devs:

Talk a bit about yourself, likes and dislikes.

Musical taste, movies, whatever, just willing to know a lil more about you as persons

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[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are there any plans on adding features that enable easier interaction with other federated platforms like mastodon and peertube (for example being able to comment/interact with peertube videos and mastodon posts)?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

You can already interact with Peertube videos and follow their channels. Thats possible because Peertube also federates groups (communities). With Mastodon thats not possible because it doesnt have groups, and Lemmy doesnt support content outside of communities. At least not without a full rewrite, which doesnt make sense considering that KBin and dozens of different microblogging platforms already exist.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Where is the best place to propose new features for Lemmy?

Edit: And as potential follow-up, where is the best place on Lemmy to propose new features for Lemmy? (Not every Lemmy user has or wants a GitHub account)

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sur eif it's bad form to answer these questions but for this one I think the github issue page is the answer.

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[–] diamat@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

First of thanks a lot for the effort that you put into creating lemmy. You have created a really friendly and welcoming place!

I have a question regarding licenses. When you started developing lemmy, what were the reasons for your choice of the AGPL? As you are marxist-leninists, did you also look into other licenses like the the Anti-Capitalist Software License?

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Will Lemmy ever become more of an organization? I'm slightly concerned about hostile take overs and or major changes that could be driven by personal views or bias.

Also a organization could facilitate cooperation and organize events.

[–] phiresky@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lemmy is somewhat protected by being an AGPL-licensed project, preventing proprietarization. If there's ever a relicensing effort, ba fearful.

I'm not sure what exactly becoming a organization would entail, but so far I'd say the development part is not really large enough? For me I would start being suspicious when a significant amount of dev power came from compan(ies), but so far no company has shown any interest afaik.

There's already been a few forks, for example lemmynsfw has made some changes on their side, which nutomic is now looking to integrate back into lemmy.

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