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"Seattle responded to the request by filing a lawsuit in Travis County, stating they cannot comply because Texas has no jurisdiction in Washington State, and no care was provided by the hospital in Texas. They also point out that the Dormant Commerce Clause, protected by the United States Constitution, “protects the right to interstate travel, including to obtain healthcare services.” By targeting out-of-state hospitals for enforcement of laws that only apply within the jurisdiction of Texas, they “discriminate against healthcare based on an interstate element,” violating constitutional protections, according to the legal filing. Lastly, Seattle Children’s Hospital cannot comply due to a shield law passed by Washington State. This law bars the hospital from providing any patient data and from responding to subpoenas pursuant to “protected healthcare services” obtained within the jurisdiction of Washington. Protected healthcare services include abortion, reproductive care, and gender-affirming care."

"This case promises to be extraordinarily complex. Seattle Children’s Hospital is challenging the jurisdiction of the demands directly in a Texas state court. Regardless of what the local court decides, the claims are likely to go to the Texas Supreme Court. Given that the claims also have a time limit on them and that appeals in Texas automatically favor the attorney general due to an automatic lifting of stays in the state, Seattle Children’s Hospital workers and providers for trans patients from Texas could be under legal jeopardy. Ultimately, the case presents questions of conflicting state laws and regulation of conduct across state lines, and the implications of those laws could be dire for abortion and trans care nationwide."

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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 237 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thank you Seattle Children's Hospital for standing up to that bullshit.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 111 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also thank you to Washington state for passing the shield law to make this happen.

"Go fuck yourself, Texas." - Sincerely, Washington state residents

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I feel that even without the shield law, this would be a violation of HIPAA

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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 31 points 10 months ago

To be fair, they are legally required to. Complying with Texas' request would violate Washington law.

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 180 points 10 months ago (12 children)

"State's rights! Unless you're a progressive state in which case fuck you, obey me!"

Just more fuel for my belief that conservatives worldwide are either suffering from major brain damage because they were exposed to too much lead and other harmful chemicals as children due to corporate deregulation, or they're just evil. Most likely a combination of both. The evil ones are at the top and the brain damaged ones keep supporting them.

Nothing conservatives say or do makes sense otherwise.

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

remember when they all bitched and moaned about 'government death panels'?

like it hadn't been going on already at the insurance companies.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 32 points 10 months ago

But if your insurance denies you, you can just come up with the millions of dollars you need yourself, so it's not a death panel! /s

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Government death panels bad.

Free market corporate death panels good.

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[–] darkstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It makes perfect sense. It's about control by any means. The fact of the matter is that, by definition, conservatives don't want progress. They'll say and do anything to stand in the way of progress, even if it's contradictory.

[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But that would be the "evil" component.

I should also add that defunding education and pushing religion in schools is a part of the brain damage component, albeit not chemically induced. And as the old guard conservatives who were intelligent but evil are dying off, we're starting to see more of the brain damaged/stupid ones enter positions of authority.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 136 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This case promises to be extraordinarily complex.

It really shouldn't be complex at all. It should be extremely simple: Is Seattle within the jurisdiction of the Texas AG or not?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 45 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess the issue is that they have to convince a Texas court of that, instead of some kind of reasonable judge.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Until it gets kicked up to federal court, at which point a judge will laugh Texas out of the courtroom. This is a huge waste of time that will achieve nothing.

[–] Tom_Hanx_Hail_Satan@lemmy.ca 97 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"This is a huge waste of time that will achieve nothing."

That's the GOPs entire platform.

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[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago

Texas is under the 5th circuit.

Judges there are often just as insane as their lower court brethren. Fully by design.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

It's achieves political objectives for the Texas AG.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 125 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

More reasons to never, ever fucking step foot in the fucking shithole that is Texas.

Drive around it if you fucking have to.

[–] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

Seriously! Apparently they try to claim ownership of you even after you leave now.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 118 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a Washingtonian, don't fuck with Seattle Children's Hospital, you piece of shit.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 10 months ago (7 children)

As a Texan, can confirm that Ken Paxton is a piece of shit.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wish he would roll Abbot off a cliff and jump down after him.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I once stood within 3 feet of Greg Abbott. Every single day of my life, I regret not punching him straight in the nose. It wouldn’t have changed anything, but he most certainly deserved it then, and double deserves it now.

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[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 66 points 10 months ago (5 children)

They (gop) really want a civil war.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

they do realize that if they start it and we win, we're gonna have to finish the job for good this time, right? we aren't gonna make the "ending reconstruction early" mistake twice.

[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sherman should have never stopped.

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[–] thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Who will rid us of this meddlesome priest?

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

Shouldn't he be in prison for when he tried to murder that poor pregnant woman a couple weeks ago?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 49 points 10 months ago

And nothing of this is actually about trans youth. They really don't give a shit, they know this won't work and just do this anyway to rule the crazies to vote whilst also distracting everyone from them stealing said crazies dry

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seattle PD should demand the Texas AG come to their station to answer harassment complaints.

[–] samwise@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seattle PD will tear gas their own citizens. Can't imagine what they'd do to someone from outside the state

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why was the lawsuit filed in Texas and not in Washington State? The hospital is based in Seattle, the people coming for care received that care in Seattle, ... Surely Washington state courts should have the final say.

[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 65 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Because its performative, theatre, literal virtue signalling. Remember, absolutely everything they do is projection. Republicans always need a current boogeyman to be "protecting the children from". They exist solely to manufacture moral panic, outrage, conspiracy, and fake scandal. They have chosen the dumbest, most fearful americans as their constituency because they are easiest to grift. Their supporters greedily feast on these lies like hogs at a trough.

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[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This case promises to be extraordinarily complex

Does it? It seems pretty clear to me that the state of Texas does not have any authority over a children's hospital over 1000 miles outside of its jurisdiction. What exactly is complex about this?

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's going to be complex because the Texas AG has already made their dumb decision, and now the hospital is suing the state of Texas in Texas.

It'll be complex because the fascist Texas courts are involved.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But I thought Texas was all about "States rights to decide for themselves!"

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[–] chocolateo@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you can arrest an entire hospital can you arrest an entire state government?

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He was born in 1962 and worked two years as "business consultant" and eleven years as lawyer for corporations. In his 61 years of life he has worked at most thirteen of them. The rest of the time has been bouncing around fake government part time jobs. He has zero experience with law enforcement or the justice system in general.

As long as we allow the talentless hacks of the world to rule us the world that they want will remain. Go ask your local elected officials if they can change a tire and how was work today.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Go ask your local elected officials if they can change a tire and how was work today.

What does this have to do with anything? I get that you’re talking about relating to the common experience, but that doesn’t have anything to with being able to govern. Don’t know if you’re American, but here we had the Tea Party at one time (the precursor of MAGA, in a way), so basically your MTG and Boebert types. These types of people can relate to the common experience quite well, but that doesn’t give them with any sense on how to effectively be part of legislature, so their default is being asinine attention seekers. There are plenty of people who have common roots who are just as terrible in their thinking as any elite. What matters I think is how well someone can empathize and think beyond party lines because at the end of it that’s what’s required to get things done.

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[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 32 points 10 months ago

My thoughts go out to the patients of Seattle Children's Hospital. What a shitty situation and what a shitty person.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Republican sues to see kids genitals.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Can they also try to undermine the federal HIPAA law at the same time?

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I have dealt with Ken a few times now. He is as big a douchebag as he is a dipshit.

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who exactly is he planning to put in jail? Sounds like workers in seattle. But really... which one? I honestly don't even know why they bothered to respond to this political stunt.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 10 months ago

Never stop overreaching. Assholes.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Does Texas believe we don't have guns?

Just because we don't parade around with it or make it our identity.

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