if you can work remotely then why live in a closet?
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In order to live next to all the city stuff? Some people like cities after all, and more space is more space to clean
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The literal endless abundance of things to do. Idc if my place is a closet if I'm never in it. Obviously if you're raising a 5 person family it's harder, but if you're solo or DINK then why wouldn't you
Solo converting to DINK here, and for me, after spending years in a city, basically while there's tons to do in a city, there's only a relatively small portion of it that I actually want to do.
Combine that with my love of outdoor hobbies which are all farther from me while living in a city...
And at this point, for me, it's more about finding the smallest city that offers me most of what I like about cities while being small enough that I lose as much of the negatives as possible, with bonus points for a city that's small enough for me to live on the edges, where I can have a house with a yard and a garage, while being within a 10 minute drive of city center, but also less than 30 minutes from outdoor recreation opportunities.
I'm also at the age where "stay home" is often my preferred choice of thing to do, so having a spacious, comfortable home where I can enjoy living is a major consideration. A 500 sqft 1BR that I share with a roommate or two ain't cutting it.
Different people like different things, and while cities provide a lot, there's also a lot they don't.
pollution, noise, lack of nature, and depending on the city crime and corruption
There's no corruption quite like deep country corruption. Oh, you're dating the sheriff's daughter? Well we'll just look the other way...
New York is a huge state. Why would you need to live in a closet?
Blue states going down, red states going up. The electoral college will fuck us all.
It depends on who is moving. It doesn’t help Dems to run up the score in California and New York, so having people leave might actually help. If some of those educated progressive knowledge workers move to cities in the south, it could make a huge difference.
Nice take.
I saw the map and had the same dismal overall reaction but this is a very valid point!
Outside of NYC, NY is a red state. But will 100,000 have that great an influence on the electoral college? It doesn't sound like a lot in a population of 19 million.
Not alone. It would have to lose ~3% relative to other states to lose a vote. However, this is just one year and southern states are all gaining people at twice the rate New York is losing them, so theoretically a blue vote could be flipping to a red vote every few years just from the amount of people leaving blue states.
Note that when New York loses Congressional seats, the legislature will presumably gerrymander them such that the Republicans in New York are eliminated, so it shouldn't affect Congress at all.
watches the flood of blue tech people swarming to NC
yeah, I'm not sure the vote will flip that way. It doesn't take much to impact these tiny population red states.
There are pockets of NY, outside of NYC, that are blue. The big areas that are red are mostly rural counties. But land doesn't vote, people do, so it doesn't matter if 1,000 people in a huge area vote red when 100,000 people in a small city vote blue.
You're right that NYC helps keep us blue, but they aren't the only ones. In 2020, NY voted for Biden over Trump 60.8% to 37.7%. If we removed NYC's counties, NY would have still voted for Biden, but at a much closer 52.4% to 45.9%.
Unless blue people moving to Texas and Florida flip those states blue, in which case red might be done for good.
Unless it causes red states to flip blue. GA and AZ are examples of that happening.
If the people equivalent to the entire population of Wyoming moved out of New York, most people wouldn't notice.
In fairness Wyoming could disappear and nobody would realize until the military and the truckers pointed it out, and even then there'd be a delay
How do we even know it is there right now? We should create something like is-wyoming-still-there.com to keep an eye on it.
I'm curious how many people are just leaving the US entirely. Technically this probably wouldn't represent it since expats are still counted as a resident of whatever state you lived in last untill you revoke your citizenship.
I was wondering what would happen to gentrified neighborhoods once they ratched up the cost of living so high that the gentrifiers couldn't afford it.
Louis Rossmann would be proud.
moving to places in the south because initially was cheaper and driving up prices such as property taxes for the ones already there
At least they're presumably turning red places purple
The social services and community involvement are better in Indiana than they were (and appear to still be, though I no longer have direct experience there) in WNY. Health insurance was better in NY, though. If I go back to die there, it will only be for the sake of nostalgia and not any belief that the remainder of my life would be better.
Depends heavily where you are. If it's not Indy, ft Wayne, Lafayette, Bloomington, or Terre Haute (maybe Evansville?), IN is pretty craptastic in both those regards. At least that has been my 35 years of experience.
Little towns got shitty roads and hospitals I wouldn't enter unless I were actively dying. Not to mention the abhorrent under funding of police / fire / education that is rampant... But all my kids family lives here so I'm here too lol.
Room rents too high I guess.
I moved from Maryland to Western New York in 2023. Apparently me and my family weren't enough to move the needle.
That population loss, driven by the pandemic, effectively wiped out nearly three-quarters of the population gains made during the prior decade.
Pandemic hit the city hard and people do not want to go back for overpriced closets.
Huh. We've been considering moving to upstate NY from central CA, promarily due to ecological factors like climate, air quality, and what seems like the threat of eternal drought. I like central California well enough, but I'm dead sick of 117 degree Augusts and casually living with air quality that makes your eyes water.
Watch Rossman Repair’s ordeal trying to rent a shop in NYC ultimately leaving the state.
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