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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"they didnt know there were children present"

this right here shows how little they care about humans in that, its ok to come in as a killing machine if its just adults

zero effort put into the fact this guy should not have been armed entering that place at all.

no one reported a weapon, but sure as fuck the police brought the danger to the scene. lets repeat that the police were the most dangerous part of this incident and nothing happened. nothing fixed. nothing learned.

and now these cops can feel justified to shoot the next 11 year old 'accidentally'.

you cant accidentally if you dont have the weapon in your fucking hand.

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Especially since it goes on to say

the address was known to the officers and had “been the scene for dozens of violent and sometimes armed disputes” between Nakala Murry and the father of one of her children

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Which means police knew very well from their own history that there were already children in danger in that house, sometimes from armed angry people, before they even showed up.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

During Thursday’s meeting, the board also voted against releasing the video footage of the shooting incident, according to Indianola Alderman Marvin Elder.

In response to that move, Moore claimed the decision speaks to the lack of transparency and accountability over the incident.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To the further shock of absolutely no one.

"We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing. No, you can't see the evidence, only we're allowed to see it."

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Wtaf is going on now

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I wonder if I was like 10 plus seconds of the kid crying in fear, while the cop lined up his shot.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago
[–] BillDaCatt@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've said it before and I will say it again: Any cop who kills someone, justified or not, should lose their job as a police officer permanently. It's extreme, I know. But so is killing someone. Taking a life should be the last resort. Shooting should only be the option when there are no other options.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cops should have to carry malpractice insurance like doctors. That way citizens don’t have to pay out when they hurt someone, and they can be labeled uninsurable if they’re too much of an asshole.

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's a very capitalistic or even libertarian view - i don't like it but what horrifies me is that in the current US political climate it sounds more feasible than making the police, you know... Not kill people (sigh)

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Americans won't solve a problem unless they can create an entire new rent-seeking industry out of it.

See also: Health care and higher education

[–] TheDubh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

While I believe that police reform deeply needs to happen, the need to insure police departments will never go away. It could be due to something so unfortunate as mechanical failure leading to an injury or death.

Ether way I feel like it’s unfair for the public to always pay because the police or any other public department fails and there isn’t a direct recourse/motivation to fix it. The general public loses in every step of the current process. We had the bad employees, we’ve been harmed by their tactics, we pay the legal bills for defending them, we pay the settlement cost, most the time those employees are still there to repeat the issues, and now the budge is potentially reduced making it harder to fix things. This feels fundamentally broken.

To be fair I don’t view that as just a police issue, but any public servant job that can lead to the city/school/gov being sued for millions. I know of a small town that got sued for police issues, paid, and to make up the deficit hired more cops with the intent to make the town a speed trap, to raise money. No one won.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cops should have to carry malpractice insurance like doctors. That way citizens don’t have to pay out when they hurt someone, and they can be labeled uninsurable if they’re too much of an asshole.

There is, unfortunately, no sane underwriter who could look at ANY part of that and go, "Yeah! That's a great risk! That's exactly where I want to put my cash!"

And police departments are already responsible for vetting their new hires and expelling unsuitable officers; as long as someone else, anyone else, is paying these settlements they will just continue to shirk that duty, along with all the others they've shucked off that involve protecting and serving working-class citizens.

It's a great idea, but for that to work it would necessitate exactly the reform the cops have been fighting all along. These cop-murder settlements are moving into high 8-figures now. Just one bad shooting could wipe out a single insurer. The states could underwrite it, but they're already doing that by paying out court-awarded settlements; it would be moving money from one budget to another with no gain.

So in essence, that's State Farm looking at Florida and going, "Yeah . . . absolutely not."

Fucking wild.

If a chef stabs a guy, there's a 99% chance we will never see that chef cook professionally again.

This is so stupid.

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

America sure is the greatest country in the world. We care about our children and the police definitely are not a highly exclusive gang here to murder us.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

Greg Capers invaded the home of an 11 year old child and opened fire, severity injuring the boy.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago

To the shock of absolutely no one.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Feels like almost every week we here a similar story, if not many times per week. Very sad.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

CNN The Board of Aldermen of a Mississippi town voted nearly unanimously Thursday to reinstate a police officer who shot an 11-year-old boy inside his own home earlier this year, the officer’s attorney told CNN. On May 20, Sgt. Greg Capers mistakenly shot in the chest and seriously injured Aderrien Murry while he was responding to a domestic disturbance call at the child’s home, according to his mother, Nakala Murry, and the Mississippi Bureau of Investigation. Capers was initially put on paid administrative leave while the shooting was investigated, CNN reported at the time. Capers was then suspended without pay in June after a 4-1 vote by the Indianola Board of Aldermen. On Thursday evening, the Board of Aldermen voted 4-1 to reinstate Capers during a special session. His reinstatement is effective immediately, according to Michael Carr, an attorney with the Police Benevolent Association representing Capers. “Capers is glad for the reinstatement and ready to get back to work,” Carr told CNN in a statement. “Since the determination was made yesterday evening, we are yet to know when he will be put back on schedule or what shift. He remains a Sgt.” Exclusive video from the Thursday meeting, shared with CNN by Murry family attorney Carlos Moore, shows 11-year-old Aderrien and his family attending the Board of Aldermen meeting. In the brief video, Aderrien appears overwhelmed with emotion and can be seen sobbing as he is led from the room after the vote to reinstate Capers. The boy suffered an anxiety attack and had to be transported to the hospital by ambulance, Moore said in a statement to CNN. “Aderrien Murry suffered an anxiety attack during the meeting which resulted in him bleeding from his mouth and nose,” the attorney said. “This unfortunate incident only underscores the deep, ongoing trauma that Aderrien and his family are experiencing.” In May, the Murry family filed a lawsuit against the City of Indianola, its police chief and several officers, including Greg Capers. The lawsuit seeks at least $5 million in damages, claiming excessive force, negligence, reckless endangerment, and civil assault and battery, among other counts. A defense motion for summary judgment filed December 5 calls for the Murrys’ lawsuit to be dismissed, saying Capers and the police chief “are entitled to qualified immunity because the allegations amount to no more than an unintentional shooting where an officer reasonably reacted to a potentially dangerous situation and threat of serious harm.” The motion says the plaintiff also failed to establish a violation of the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution because Capers’ actions were unintentional, and he and his fellow officer were never informed there were children in the home when they responded to a 911 call about a “violent domestic disturbance.” Aderrien Murry, right, and his mother Nakala Murry, speak to CNN after the 11-year-old was shot by a police officer following his call to 911 earlier this month. In addition, the address was known to the officers and had “been the scene for dozens of violent and sometimes armed disputes” between Nakala Murry and the father of one of her children, the court document states. During Thursday’s meeting, the board also voted against releasing the video footage of the shooting incident, according to Indianola Alderman Marvin Elder. In response to that move, Moore claimed the decision speaks to the lack of transparency and accountability over the incident. “Our commitment remains steadfast in seeking accountability and justice on behalf of the Murry family,” Moore added.*