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[–] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This was not a causal study; the study did not analyze the reason for an incident.

It's possible that the car itself is not the only reason. Tesla owners are a self-selecting demographic, and it's possible that the people who buy these cars are also people who tend to expose themselves to greater risks.

I'm not calling all Tesla owners arrogant and selfish drivers, but... who am I kidding. I am.

[–] Wooster@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The article implies the self driving feature may be a significant contributor.

Considering relatively few other brands have similar autonomous driving, and that autonomous driving technology is still very much in its infancy I'd wager just having a classification of accident currently unique to Tessla is enough to put it in the lead.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah I saw a clip on twitch of a big streamer getting into another streamers car, and he said he'd been playing on his steam deck while his tesla was on auto-pilot. No one batted an eye lid.

Tesla does not have autonomous driving tech, it has assisted driving tech which people are treating like autonomous driving - including tesla who market it as Tesla Autopilot. It's worth remembering it's a "beta testing" programme to get to level 5 self driving; it is currently level 2 and needs active driver supervision at all time. And that's ignoring all the controversy about the system Tesla has adopted which is cheaper and dumps a lot of sensor components others say are essential to actually achieve autonomous driving.

Tesla is basically a cow boy company who have managed to get the "BMW" stereotype drivers to buy their cars and beta test them on the roads. The rest of us are the road fodder for this dangerous approach.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

They're talking specifically about "autosteer" not "full self driving". Every other manufacturer has "adaptive cruise control" and "lane assist" that does exactly the same thing. As someone who owned a Tesla well before anyone had these kinds of features, I was pleasantly surprised to see how many do now when I was shopping for a new car this summer.

(To be clear, fuck Musk and nobody should buy a Tesla for lots of reasons. Just correcting your majorly flawed second paragraph.)

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see so many Tesla’s with dings and dents. Also, that instant torque and rapid acceleration can make drivers take some risks.

[–] xwolpertinger@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Dings and dents are just calibration marks if you lack ultrasonic distance sensors, sadly.

While the vision replacement has been getting slightly better I'll never forget the time where it told me that I'm lodged inside of a wall.

[–] The_Worst@feddit.nl 6 points 11 months ago

Give them a break, they are only beta testing (/s)

[–] Iampossiblyatwork@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It found that Tesla drivers are involved in more accidents than drivers of any other brand. Tesla drivers had 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers. Ram (22.76) and Subaru (20.90) were the only other brands with more than 20 accidents per 1,000 drivers for every brand.

This was not a causal study; the study did not analyze the reason for an incident. But it comes amid news that Tesla recently recalled more than 2 million Tesla vehicles over a safety issue related to its Autopilot software —

So we aren't blaming auto pilot but we are writing this article after the recall to help you connect the dots on your own.

I love hating musk as much as the next guy, but someone has something to gain from this article.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Ram I get but Subarus? Wtf