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I'm not really clear on why the turbolift would fall in the first place... Is that a gravity plating thing? I guess gravity plating must work without power?

Also Picard knew it was going to fall... are we to infer he'd rather be pancaked than spend another moment with those kids?

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I know the writers just think of them as elevators, but why are we generating artificial gravity in a turnolift shaft just so we can overcome it with another generated force?

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Kinda related, I've been saying for years we need more "the gravity plating is out" episodes where everything is floating around, bumping into shit, causing problems. We got one scene in enterprise and that's it. :/

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The expanse really nailed the whole gravity thing. The explanation was entirely within the realm of science, and the low/zero g scenes looked amazing.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

oh man, when the entire fleat gets stopped in place and it's a massive problem because everyone went flying and now zero g is making their blood pool badly even with minor injuries...... they turned what most shows would've shown as a minor inconvenience and showed how awful it would really be.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that was awesome,

Ot when old mate went racing through the ring and his ship stopped

[–] teft@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

The music that guys plays on ship is awesome. I have the belter version of highway star in my music and play it every now and then.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I really need to watch the expanse.

[–] benfell@infosec.exchange 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

@DharmaCurious @SkyezOpen

It's an interesting show, but make sure you've got good sound: I found the accents difficult to parse without it. The series was abruptly terminated, so don't expect a neat ending.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

The ending was decent. It ended right where the book series it's based off of has a 30-year time skip, so it worked out pretty well for them. They have plenty of time to come back to it and still keep continuity with actors too FWIW.

[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use subtitles for everything, because I'm hard of hearing, but thanks for the warning!

And that sucks. It's based on a book series, yeah? If I'm super invested, hopefully I can get my fix like that.

[–] benfell@infosec.exchange 1 points 11 months ago

@DharmaCurious

It wouldn't surprise me, but I don't know off hand whether The Expanse was based on a book series.

[–] benfell@infosec.exchange 1 points 11 months ago

@DharmaCurious @SkyezOpen

It's an interesting show, but make sure you've got good sound: I found the accents difficult to parse without it. The series was abruptly terminated, so don't expect a neat ending.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean, as far as the older shows, it was probably too expensive to produce “gravity-free” episodes?

I did really enjoy them using the gravity being turned off in Subspace Rhapsody though!

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

that is extremely hard to film.

[–] skulblaka@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So that you can stand on the lift, and not get head trauma every time you want to travel to a lower deck I'd assume.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

You would just generate gravity in the lift pod itself.

[–] hallettj@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

I think Picard was willing to sacrifice himself to save the kids. He's an officer who signed up for a risky job - they are not, and also they're kids. I think he thought that going with them would slow things down enough to add unacceptable risk for the kids. And they did end up spending a bunch of time cobbling together an apparatus to move Picard during which the lift could have fallen.

When the kids refused to go maybe that changed Picard's calculation: the advantage of going without him diminishes if they use up time arguing. Or maybe it's TV writing.

But maybe Picard wasn't certain that the lift would fall. Or maybe if he'd stayed he would have managed to pull out a Picard move to save himself at the last second - you know, the kind that's easier to do when there aren't kids watching. Or maybe, as far as he knew someone might rescue him in time. But yeah, he probably would have died, and the kids' mutiny was the only out that let him save himself while also trying to be noble.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 11 months ago

They can move in all directions; maybe they weren't even in a shaft that could go up or down at the time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] hallettj@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

when relays are blown
when power reserves fail
when life support is gone
gravity plating's pull is relentless
it will carry on

[–] waspentalive@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

The way gravity plating works is not given as far as I know, Perhaps the gravity generators simply alter the number of gravitons in an area of plating. Once that value is set it remains until changed again. A sudden power spike can cause the generators to withdraw the extra gravitons, as a result sometimes certain kinds of emergency can "turn off" gravity in an area of the ship.