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I need some books paywalled behind Oxford Politics Trove and they aren’t on Anna’s lib, Zlib, Libgen, Memory of the World, Aaarg, or the Internet Archive. Not sure to whom else to turn to. I hate that knowledge like this is paywalled, and I highly doubt the authors will be paid if I pay the highway robbery of a price.

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[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Hey mate, I extracted this one from Scribd using this Scribd downloader I found

Issues in Political Theory 2019

As of now I can't find Rethinking political thinkers, but I found it on Academia.edu and it says there for 3usd (premium trial) you can get the PDF

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Awesome! Thank you for telling me about Scribd downloader and finding the first book.

As for the Academia.edu link, it doesn’t seem like premium will provide the PDF, that’s just premium membership. The actual PDFs are governed by individual authors. Seems that author uploaded a preview of the book perhaps to indicate that they contributed to it so it counts as a citation.

[–] OpenHammer6677@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're welcome!

May the winds of the high seas favor you (especially with the 2nd book). I'll try to find it again if I have the time

[–] Keineanung@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

^ This is why Lemmy is better than the alternatives.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because there's people on it like any other platform?

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

because the community is still quite small. Makes interactions more personal which leads to people being less of a dick in my experience.

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did you try sci hub for the separate chapters (if they have separate doi)?

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sci hub no longer updates, and these books are too recent.

[–] steersman2484@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Use libgen

Edit: you can also check the FMHY Wiki for sources.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 9 points 11 months ago

I’ve already mentioned in the body that it ain’t on libgen. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a point of asking. I’ll check the other wiki though, thanks.

[–] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You sure about scihub? I am finished without it. Do you know what's going on there?

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, as a result of SciHub’s ongoing litigation in India, they voluntarily decided to stop updating their database. This is old news. You can look it up.

[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Have you tried emailing the authors? It's well known that some folks will gladly respond with a copy of the paper at no charge.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s not usually an option for books. Articles, maybe, but I need textbooks.

[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Welp, I totally misunderstood the question then. Sorry.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 13 points 11 months ago

IIRC: The Oxford Politics Trove is more text books than academic papers.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why people keep pushing this myth.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What makes you think it's a myth?

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because it is a myth. Many friends have attempted this and got no response whatsoever. Pretty much almost never have they actually gotten access to the papers by mailing the researchers directly.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

People are busy, and academics especially get tons of emails to wade through. When we say that authors will gladly share their papers, it means that the incentives are aligned such that it benefits them to share their work for free. It doesn't mean that they'll drop everything else to respond to your email.

[–] Toine@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depending on where you live, you might find them in a university library.

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My library doesn’t have it unfortunately. I’ve asked for help anyway, perhaps through an inter-library loan. We’ll see.

[–] dumdum666@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can’t you ask your university library to order the newest versions?

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

I did ask them to check if they could access it through interlibrary loan. We’ll see. Buying the book seems prohibitive though. It’s highway robbery prices.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What we did in the situation was buy one book and then everyone photocopied it and split the cost

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That works quite well in my country, where book piracy isn’t as policed, but that’s not an option for me because I can’t access or buy a physical copy.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you can buy it copy it and return it

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago

It’s too expensive ://

[–] CubbyTustard@reddthat.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Checked there several times already.

[–] reflex@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the lead, but they don’t have it.

[–] Robsadaisy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A long shot but Google Scholar may have some pages/chapters?

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that’s a good tip, but I need the whole book. I’ve checked.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

In the past, with similar issues, I've had good success with requesting the book on Zlib, especially newer books.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 4 points 11 months ago

Sci-Hub should still be around, I guess...

[–] spiritedpause@fosstodon.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@mambabasa What are the names of the books?

[–] mambabasa@slrpnk.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Both are on Oxford Politics Trove. Would you happen to have institutional access?

Yes, I’m aware Issues has pirated versions of earlier editions available, I have those already. I’m hoping for the latest version.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Neither are in MAM (private tracker for books). Sorry.

[–] WholeEnchilada@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Really makes me wonder why they don’t value our work enough to pay us better salaries to afford all the bullshit we’re expected to pay for out of pocket.

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

We are slaves