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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/risa@startrek.website

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Just once I'd like a post where everyone is chill and positive about stuff instead of focusing on negative

Edit: I dunno why I expect people to ever be capable of being positive anymore. Dunno why I bother.

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[–] Kucifus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Hard disagree, new star trek has had years to "settle in" and has shown almost no signs of improving on the things that make it poor quality - namely low effort pandering writing and a lack of respect for its audience. Alex Kurtzman and the executives are the problem, and they're not going anywhere soon.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All the exact same arguments that were made against TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT.

But way to look at the description of my post and say "Nah, positivity? Fuck that."

Thanks for that.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Here's a controversial thought: The worst Trek is at the absolute worst kinda decent, and it only goes up from there.

My Trek power rankings don't line up with most (Discovery is pretty great, DS9 is kind of annoying, all the Kelvin Treks are fun and the first one is pretty great), but even the parts I don't like I can watch and be chill about it.

Picard is bordering that line, honestly, but I can't be actively mad at Patrick Stewart and I actually would have watched a cheaper, longer show about the La Sirena crew without the TNG baggage.

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[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I've reached season three of Discovery, in my effort to give it a second chance, and I'm liking it a lot more. I've heard the third season of Picard was good too, but I've not made it that far yet.

They both just took the TNG approach of not really hitting their stride until the third season. Stamets' meme is on point, as usual.

I am looking forward to what they do to sell me on this new Ezri Dax meets Wesley and Beverly Crusher character. I hope they learn from Beverly's ghost-related mistakes lol

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I still think Orville is better trek than nutrek.

One of these days, Ill give it another chance, but not today.

[–] nzeayn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I fuckin love Discovery and none of ya can shame me for that. All this new era of trek fun as hell and im here for it. The abrams movies got my kid into trek because you know what, they are fun!

I pulled away from the trek fandom back in the Voyager days. Because I love that damn show. And I got tired of hearing how much better it would be if Janeway smiled more. I love the TNG era but it had some problems. The Yar arc happend people.

Trek is trek and it's all fantastic. Folks who can't be happy to enjoy all the new trek we've gotten are welcome to go back to grumply watching that original star wars trilogy shit. I'll be over here with the capacity for joy rewatching all of trek now.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think from Season 3 to mid-season 5 and then late season 7 of TNG, most of DS9, and a couple seasons of Voyager, this isn't true. I think people knew at the time we had genuinely good Trek on the air.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

No, no they didn't. Run through the alt.startrek Usenet archive throughout the '90s and you'll find plenty of bitching about every series.

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[–] 7of9@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

I have enjoyed all of the recent Trek I've seen (Kelvin and Picard S1/S2 very much included). I'm really looking forward to watching Discovery when I can.

Media that has a different style is most enjoyable, I do not want to see the same style all the time, and seeing a different angle can be a breath of fresh air even if it is not to my taste.

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