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Welcome to the world of Carrier Grade NAT. 100.64.0.0/10 is reserved for this.
If you are lucky, you also have an IPv6 address. The catch is you need IPv6 on the client-side too.
A VPS or similar running wireguard and a proxy might bridge the gap.
It might also be possible to ask your provider for some port forwarding. Probably not, but check anyway.
Good luck!
This is exactly what happened to me, but was able to contact my ISP to drop IPv6 support and get back my ports forwarding to work on my line
N.B. to anyone reading this: ask you isp to "opt out of CG-NAT". Talking about IPv6 may confuse the worker, it's partially related but not the fully picture.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| CGNAT | Carrier-Grade NAT |
| DNS | Domain Name Service/System |
| Git | Popular version control system, primarily for code |
| HTTP | Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web |
| IP | Internet Protocol |
| NAT | Network Address Translation |
| VPN | Virtual Private Network |
| VPS | Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) |
| nginx | Popular HTTP server |
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You're already using cloudflare, so check out cloudflare tunnels. You install their software on your server which makes an outbound connection, bypassing the need for open ports or a public IP. Note this only does http traffic.
Another option is tail scale, which won't make your site public but will let you access it remotely on devices you have their software/app on.
I’m actually not sure you can easily get tailscale up and running om such as a setup as it uses the same cgnat ip range.
This page says (at the very bottom):
Tailscale can route its packets peer-to-peer over IPv4 or IPv6, with and without NAT, multi-layer NAT, or CGNAT in the path.
Yeah, you’re absolutely correct. I misread that thinking OP would have the CG NAT endpoint and taikscsle on the same physical device, which, I still think, would be a problem: you'd have two interfaces for 100.64.0.0/10. But if CG NAT terminates on the modem and you run taikscale on devices connected to it them there's surely no issue at all.
I run it on my router which has the CG-NAT IP address.
Whilst you’re right that it could clash, it’s very unlikely (a 1 in 4194302 chance), I imagine Tailscale would detect the clash and change IPs though I could be wrong as it never happened to me (and probably never will - though in all fairness it will eventually happen to someone).
I went looking into how that works, and, apparently, tailscale adds individual node routes (in table 52). So yeah, you have very low chances of getting into trouble even if you have an interface with 100.64/10.
Been using Tailscale behind CG-NAT for years. It works wonderfully and very rarely needs to route through the DERP infrastructure - it’s almost always a P2P connection.
I haven't had any issues running Tailscale and cloudflared on the same machines
Sorry, I meant the OPs modem.
i've been on CGNAT and just pointed my domain to my ipv6 address with no issues - every isp should hand out huge v6 subnets dedicated to you.
Since my v6 prefix is not stable, i use ddclient from my homeserver to update my domains AAAA record
Unfortunately IPv6 adoption is not universal. There will be parts of the internet that won't be able to reach you at a 6-only address.
Yup, my gemini capsule is suffering from it. :(
I tried that and couldn't make it work. My server was unable to receive any http requests. Then I tried doing some tweaking in my ISP router configuration but with no success. So far cloudflare tunnel was the only solution I found
port forwarding in your router properly set up?
Have you reached out to your ISP to see if they can give you a dynamic public IP? I recently swapped to a new ISP that was using CGNAT but after contacting their support team with my use case, they were happy to set me up with a public IP so I could continue my self-hosting.
I use a VPN that I setup on an Oracle free tier VPS when I need to access my stuff over IPv4. I also have IPv6, so I can connect directly when using 5G on my phone.
Oracle is awesome in this one specific way. They suck in all other ways but this is really good.
@skookumasfrig @cmnybo the free tier is limited to 10 Mbps which is kinda slow. It can be a bottleneck
Yeah, that's a big limitation.
Mine says 0.5gbit
Unless they're willing to give you your own IP (dynamic, or maybe static for a fee), that's a good reason for replacing your ISP imo.
You say that as if most don’t hold a monopoly in their available regions. At least in America, you typically have the choice of one, maybe more if you’re in a largeish city, and I suppose you have the option of a 5G hub but that’s terrible for running services.
Ouch, I was not aware of that. Here in scandinavialand we have a few local or regional ones in each area, plus a few big ones that cover the entire country.
Once the fiber is in the ground, "any" ISP can use them, regardless who buried it. I think it's a remnant from 20ish years ago when the default was ADSL over copper, and the telecom cables were considered public infrastructure.
Dude I’d kill for that availability. Here, the companies own the infrastructure, and can offer to let others use it if they’d like but that doesn’t usually happen.