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[–] radiohead37@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be cool to watch my out of state team but I’m not paying $400 for that privilege, not even close.

[–] silverbax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm with you - a few times early in this season I looked into it, but I have to pay MORE to just buy the NFL and I don't need YouTube TV so I said fuck it, I'm not paying $400 bucks just to watch 3 or 4 out of market games a year.

So basically YouTube is trying the old 'just buy our whole service for less'...but I don't want your whole service and I'm not going to buy it unless I want it.

I just want to watch a few out of market NFL games a year, and neither Google or the NFL will take my money.

I'd gladly pay for an out of market game once in a while. It's stupid business not to take customer's money just because you're trying to wedge your overall business into our lives.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I usually watch one game a weekend, but if I wanted all of them, I would have three options. First, I could go to a sports bar. It's fun, social, and costs whatever I would spend on food and drinks. Option 2 is to give Youtube $400 a year and watch whatever games they want to show me on multiview, because I don't get to pick. Option 3 is I don't give Youtube $400 and I stream whichever games I want to watch for free.

I'm not surprised they have millions of subscribers. A lot of people don't want to go to a bar, and a lot of people don't have the patience for piracy. But the product they are putting out should be better than those options. They should offer features the make it worth $400 a year. Otherwise, they overpaid for the license.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I paid for it and I quadbox the games I want to see and redzone. It's nice not having the low resolution and streams that are not stopping all the time. Bonus is you can rewind or watch all the games when you want to. Totally worth the price.

[–] nuke@yah.lol 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ohh buddy, I needs mah RedZone. I think it was less than $100 a year on NFL+ easily worth it

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I can't do it. Football is a game of flow and red zone hides it all.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Redzone is worth it, but my wife is a Lions fan (for life) and they are never televised in our area, so Sunday Ticket is the only means she really gets to see her team.

[–] nuke@yah.lol 4 points 1 year ago

but my wife is a Lions fan

my condolences

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's because you've only used shitty streams. Compare it to what I have and what I'm paying.

I have an IPTV service that's $25/month and I get every sports package including NFL Gamepass, NHL, NBA, MLB, NCAA to watch any game, all regional sports channels like all the Bally sports, all the ATT Sportsnets, NBC Sports, etc, everything, all local channels across the country meaning I can chose to watch games on local channels instead of Gamepass channels, all the other regular cable channels, all premium movie channels, and all PPVs (no extra costs).

It never buffers, it's full HD 60fps. And I can also quad screen it. There is a fully populated, accurate guide and I can record and/or schedule recordings like a DVR with it.

I'm a Niners fan in Wisconsin, and I've used this same service to not miss any of their games for the last 5 years.

[–] runninghazard@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could you PM the service?

I have been looking for a good sports service but most of the services have been less than stellar.

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New user registration has been closed for like the last 3 years... which is probably why it's been so reliable and hasn't been shut down. However, I can create sub accounts under my account for "friends and family," I would be willing to do this for a limited number of lemmy users that have asked here but I would ask two things:

  1. Pay in bitcoin because that's how I pay the invoices.

  2. Understand how IPTV service already works... meaning you have used a client like TiviMate or OTT Navigator or Sparkle TV in the past because I'm not going to provide support for it. You would get a username and password to put into one of those clients, and $25/month gets you 4 simultaneous streams.

[–] bruhrrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the name of the service happen to start with B and end with B?

[–] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's called flawless. There are copycats that show up in Google searches, but they are not legitimate. It's a dead giveaway if the services offer VOD... this service does not have VOD.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought it, but for a tech company their tech is pretty shit.

On ESPN, if I want to watch 4 games, there are a couple different layout options, and I can pick and add each individual game at my discretion. With YouTubeTV, they have predefined choices of games you can watch. It's not a complete list of combinations, and you don't have layout options (ESPN gives you a one big, 3 small to one side option that's nice). I have two actual TVs where I watch games so the layouts are less of an issue, but I can't put a game on one screen then the other 4 I want to watch on a second screen as background unless I get lucky and it happens to be one of the choices they gave.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typically, we have the Colts, Lions, and Redzone on. I usually don't care about the fourth game.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Does it let you do that?

I don't watch a second screen during Patriots games. I like having other games in the background during other windows for commercials and down time though. But YouTube's tech blows and isn't close to competitive with ESPN.

[–] 44razorsedge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the funniest headline I can imagine. If I didn't know better, I'd say Elon owns YouTube.

[–] Xyz@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have other financial priorities at the moment so most streaming services are a want and not a need even if I love watching sports. The price is not low enough to buy it because I enjoy it and can justify it. Maybe I'll budget for it next year.

Baseball was the same way but luckily YES network did streaming for baseball and I was able to watch the games at a price I felt was reasonable. Also I only subscribed for the season, well technically not the whole season because the Yankees were killing me. That's part of the deal only streaming 1 team. I couldn't watch any other team so why stay subbed?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I know the feeling, we didn't get past all the burdens until our forties. Now though we are finally making enough money to save and have some luxury items.

[–] BigBlackCockroach@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago