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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I know it won't be popular, but I don't possibly see how remote work is better for work itself.

I was WFH for about 10 years. I had my first child, needed to parental leave (from a very small company), and they gave it to me. But I offered to "WFH" when the baby was napping and stuff so if they needed me for things I could make it work. Even after the time was up, things were still going well, and my commute was long, so they agreed to allowing me to WFH a few days a week. Eventually we moved because of my wife's job and then the pandemic, and I told them they either had to fire me or allow me to WFH 100%. They agreed to the latter.

It was a god send, without a doubt. The flexibility I had while my wife was busying with medical school/residency/fellowship was amazing. Being able to run out the door in the middle of the day for stuff was fantastic. And not having to commute is a thing of beauty.

However, after a couple of years, I realized how damaging it was to my productivity. No more ad hoc meetings where we grabbed a couple of engineers and sat down and quickly brainstormed something. It's much harder to reach out to someone over the internet than it is to just turn around and ask something. My career also started to stagnate.

When we finally settled down, I decided that I would focus on my career and pursue a new job. The new job is hybrid and, also amazingly, is only about a 15 minutes bike from my house. I don't know how I would have been able to start a new job without being in person. It's so much easier to just ask someone a question than it is. The collaboration we have is also much better than the previous 8 or so years I was fully WFH.

And as this article points out, it's the flexibility that I think is the best thing. No one bats an eye if you say you need an extra day at home that week. Or you need to go home because the plumber is coming. Or you're stepping out for a couple of hours for the doctor. This seems to be a permanent fixture at my new job.

Now, as I said, this is purely from a work perspective. Individually speaking, staying home is way better, especially if you have a shitty commute. I get that and would never say anyone should go back into the office. But I think the number of people who are actually way more productive at home are few and far between, the rest just really like the set up so they'll pretend it is way better for work, or even convince themselves it is way better. But the more and more the numbers come in, the more and more it's clear that generally speaking people are less productive with remote work.

It's going to end for most, and it's probably best to think about what best suits the needs to the individual and the business rather than clinging to the idea that it is superior in all ways.

[–] Solemn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's definitely some real benefits to in person collaboration, but even when I'm in the office (a large majority of the time since I need to test on hardware) I mostly just send a slack message for 99% of things. If it's a really pressing need I'll go find them in person, but I could also just call people online.

Whiteboard sessions are better on a physical whiteboard, but I think everything else goes perfectly fine over chat or voice call.

Instead, I find motivation to be my biggest reason to come into the office. Sure, I still waste a lot of time on lemmy in the office, but I'm still more productive more often when I'm at my desk.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Instead, I find motivation to be my biggest reason to come into the office.

Completing the tasks so you can get your paycheck to pay your rent/mortgage doesn't do it for you?

j/k, kind of.

In all seriousness, lack of motivation can hit a human being anywhere, especially they're doing a task they don't like doing.

[–] HouseOfJazz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed. I'm a supervisor of inspectors and it is a lot easier to have impromptu meeting and assign tasks in person when I can just look around the room. We did WFH during covid for about 2 years and it was definitely harder to monitor work being done and make sure everyone was on the same page.

[–] Spazz@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, arguing against all the real evidence because of your feelings, typical

[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 year ago

I agree flexible is better than full wfh. On top of everything else you mentioned, going to work gets you outside, at least briefly, and gives you a chance to interact with people you don't already know.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But I think the number of people who are actually way more productive at home are few and far between

You're assuming everyone has the same career/job, life experiences, and perspective that you do, as well as the same home office situation.

At the end of the day, they don't have to be more productive, they just have to be productive enough to complete the tasks their boss gives them to do well.

Finally, chatGPT quantity of comment tends to be overlooked. You might want to try to make your point more succinctly.

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