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[–] detectivemittens@beehaw.org 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m glad this ruling happened. Why was there this law in the first place? The lengths that people go to twist the law to be cruel to other people is awful.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago

Japan is extremely conservative in certain ways, usually because of their focus on conformance to social norms.

I encountered gay men not-infrequently while I lived there, and Japanese people are (for the most part) fine with them even if uncomfortable, but from a legal standpoint, Japan mostly prefers to pretend the LGBT+ community doesn't exist, and can be very hostile towards it when it's forced to acknowledge them (such as in medical contexts).

[–] agrammatic@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why was there this law in the first place?

In Europe at least, it was often explained as "same-sex marriage and parenthood are not allowed, and a legal gender change cannot be a loophole to that". But it appears to be a post-hoc rationalisation since the forced sterilisation programmes have many more targets in the past until it was progressively abandoned for more and more groups. It was also becoming untenable since more and more countries were legalising same-sex parenthood.

So, if we are being more honest, it's eugenics.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

I love Japan, but sometimes I really really hate their judicial and justicial systems, and the xenophobia and conformism that often underpins them.

[–] Shiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but WHAT?! A large majority of us already fucking self-sterilize with HRT, why would they even bother?

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

WOW! A big step forward for Japan!!! (A long way to go I know but still)

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL Japan forced trans people to be sterilized, jesus christ. (i mean, its very good that theyre stopping but holy crap.)

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

So did Finland up until earlier this year

[–] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I saw a video explaining why Japan is seemingly more okay with transgender people than other queer people and basically it boiled down to conforming to society is very important in Japanese culture, and so being a straight transgender person is seen as conforming to the norm. If you're a straight trans-woman then you're just like the average cis-woman, and vice versa for the guys.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

It keeps surprising me what kind of strange processes exist for transgender people in various countries. Like either accept them or don't but what's with all this in between nonsense.