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Is there an extension that warns you when you are wasting time reading ai-generated crap?

Case in point, I was reading an article that claimed to compare kubernetes distros and wasted some good minutes before realizing it was full of crap.

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[–] siderealyear@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most of the internet was already BS before 'working' LLMs, where do you think the models learned it from? I think what you want is a crap detector, and I'm with you. Any ideas good ideas and I'll donate my time to work on it.

[–] dxc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me it's uBlacklist with my personal list in front and some github page I found after.

[–] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FYI Kagi has an integrated Blocker/Upranker/Downranker similar to this. Under their stats page you can see, which domains have been blockes/raised/... the most.

The most hated one by far: Pinterest and all locale-specific sub-domains.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That's the reason why ai search engines like bing are so bad, it's based on top results that are the same crap.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

I think at some point we will have to introduce human confirmation from creator side.

I don't mind someone using chatgpt as a tool to write better articles, but most of internet is sensles bs.

[–] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, even OpenAI themselves took down their AI detection tool because it was too inaccurate. It's really, REALLY hard to detect AI writing with current technology, so any such addon would probably need to use a master list of articles that are manually flagged by human.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you could detect AI authored stuff, couldn't you use that to train your LLM?

[–] apis@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Suspect it would operate more on the basis of a person confirming that the article is of reasonable quality & accuracy.

So not unlike editors selecting what to publish, what to reject & what to send back for improvements.

If good articles by AI get accepted & poor articles by people get rejected, there may still be impacts, but at face value it might be sufficient for us seeking to read stuff.

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It could be used to create a reward model like what is done right now with RLHF.

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That said, it should actually be possible to make a bullshit detector that detects bullshit writing.

[–] scrwjck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/ai-noise-cancelling-headphones/

I literally just saw this pop up in my Mastodon feed a few minutes ago, funny enough. I haven't used it so I can't vouch for it, but I would imagine that's something akin to what you're looking for.

[–] starman@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not possible to create 100% reliable ML-generated content detection

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't even know of any that are 75% reliable. It's a really hard problem.

[–] strawberry@artemis.camp 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wasn't openai's ai detector like 25% accurate? at that point its just random chance mostly

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Marxist-Leninists cant reliably detect content D:

[–] apis@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Have got fairly good at spotting these from the first few lines, but it would be nice to not bother clicking on them in the first place & better again if they didn't clog up my search results.

Back when it was just humans churning out rubbish, there was far less of it in the way of good information, but it helped enormously that search engines still respected operands.

Bringing that back would likely help far more than a detector extension.

[–] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I know there's GPT Zero. I personally don't trust it at all, but you could still look into it

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno how to follow this in lemmy...

[–] loki@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

you can't follow it but you can save it with the star icon and come back to it later.

[–] nix@merv.news 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can use the remind me bot

@Remindme@programming.dev 5 hours

Or whatever timeframe you prefer

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Note the remindme bot uses an allowlist and this community isnt in it, youd have to get your community mods to request it gets added in the repository if you want to use it here

[–] nix@merv.news 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does it use an allowlist? Seems like its fine to just run across lemmy since it only appears when summoned.

[–] Ategon@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bot guidelines for some of the major instances dont allow bot posting unless its been approved by a mod. Also makes more sense for mods to choose what bots to allow in their community rather than response bots being fully allowed everywhere since that can easily get out of hand if a bunch get made

[–] naut@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago
[–] Cwilliams@beehaw.org -2 points 1 year ago

Another thought: does it really matter if it's AI generated or not? As long as you can fact-check the content and the quality isn't horrible, I don't see why it matters if it's written by a real person or not