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[–] Doug@midwest.social 74 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Little bothered that Tim Russ said "bias" instead of "biased"

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not mad I'm just disappointment.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not mad just disappoint

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Son. I am dissapoint.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not anger. I'm disappointment.

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[–] Opafi@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

I hope somebody replied with "hi bias, I'm dad"

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you see he is the literal human embodiment of the concept of bias and was letting us know. The other tweets are unrelated

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

It's true, that's why his role as Tuvok was so impressive. The exact opposite of type casting

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a pet peeve of mine

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I'm a little bias short and stout, here is my handle here is my spout

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A peeve of mine is the term “pet peeve”. 😅

If something bothers you so, why the fuck would you keep, nurture, and tend to it as a pet?

I propose it change to haunting peeve, because you don’t want it, can’t get rid of it, and it exists regardless if you think about it or not.

😁 (I’m not super serious about this, but “pet peeve” really does low-key bother me)

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They separated Tuvix on the bias and Tim got more of him.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unrelated to Trek, one of my favorite Twitch streams was watching AOC play Among Us with Ilhan Omar, Canadian MP Jagmeet Singh, and a bunch of YouTubers like Jack Septiceye and ContraPoints. The way Omar would giggle every time she killed somebody was adorable.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Didn't Omar take a couple of rounds as the imposter, too?

She was straight up excellent.

Concerningly excellent, as someone who lives in Minnesota, lol.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Remember this cool stuff? Now it's just a fascist site with RW morons trying to out-nazi each other.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Janeway leads with focus on her mission - to get her crew home

I don't believe that AOC has seen more than about three episodes of Voyager. If she had seen at least three, the statistical likelihood that she would have seen one where Janeway yanks the crew into some conflict they have absolutely no business involving themselves in would approach 100%

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yanks the crew into some conflict they have absolutely no business involving themselves

That's all of Star Trek.

In fact, that's almost all of most of the space drama series.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also the family vacation series

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[–] HairHeel@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Poor statement of her mission. IIRC Janeway says pretty clearly in one of the first episodes that they're still going to carry out their duty as a Starfleet ship to seek out new life and new civilizations, boldly go, etc. That's their mission, and getting home is an important part but not all of it.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

By Trek's logic, Tuvix's identical copy lives in an alternative universe of some sort. And that's really the only way to justify all this.

[–] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dude. Mirror universe tuvix. Gets the imagination going.

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Considering Mirror Tuvok was still on Terok Nor, I would love to see how they explain that one

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[–] triktrek@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

see now that is what the social medias are actually good for

[–] Rhaedas@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

The needs of the many...

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Don't know how I missed this one. Thanks for digging it up buddy. Amazing stuff. ♥️

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Further to the link. Tuvix is a character in star trek voyager. There is a transporter accident that ends up welding 2 other characters (Lieutenant Tuvok, Neelix) into 1 individual. The episode is spent trying to resolve this issue.

By the end, Captain Janeway is given a solution. They can reverse the process and recover Tuvok and Neelix. Unfortunately this will destroy Tuvix. Tuvix, meanwhile has developed on his own. He doesn't want to die and makes that clear. Janeway has the dilemma. She can do nothing, and let Tuvix live, or kill him to bring Tuvok and Neelix back.

Basically, it's the trolley problem. Do nothing, and 2 people die, or kill 1 yourself, to save them.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What I don't get is why they didn't do some technofoolery with the transporters to make a copy of Tuvix and then just split that one. In a universe where there's two William Rikers there's gotta be a way to use transporters to clone.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You kinda have to accept the bounds of the problem as stated in order for it to be worth thinking about. It undercuts the value of the experiment if you just say "I find a solution other than those presented which denied the central conflict entirely".

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[–] Kahlenar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then you'd have two Tuvixes that both don't want to die. Actually I had an entire day of one philosophy class to discuss this, however it was very specific that "teletransportation" absolutely kills you and replicates you. My professor specifically said that having an understanding of star trek was necessary that day.

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[–] heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Could you please resolve the question for people that did not watch star trek. What did she do?

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's just say Tuvix is only in one episode

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tuvok and Neelix were individuals but merged into one being, Tuvix. Tuvix had the knowledge and memories of both individuals but existed in one body. One mind. He knew everything the other two did but had his own opinions and reasonings and individuality. The Doctor onboard attempts to find a fix but is unable. He promises to find a solution.

A couple of weeks pass and Tuvix has taken over the duties of both Tuvok and Neelix. He's developing some friendships and relationships. He's even more effective in certain situations than his counterpart would have been due to the unique perspective he has. He's settled in. Then the Doctor informs Captain Janeway and Tuvix that he's discovered a solution and a way to split Tuvix back into Tuvok and Neelix. Everyone is on board except Tuvix who announces he doesn't want to die after gaining his own identity.

Janeway is forced into a horrible position. She wants her friends back but also she wants to respect this lifeform and unique person. She hears from Tuvix and other crew members on what their opinion is. Tuvix obviously is against it. Heavily. Kes, Neelix's girlfriend, desperately wants Neelix back. Tuvok also happens to be Janeways close advisor and close personal friend. After some time, Janeway comes out and asks Tuvix to come with her to sickbay. She is ordering that he undergo the procedure.

Tuvix immediately rebels and starts pleading for his life from various crew members on the bridge. All ignore him and look away. He then attempts to run away but Security officers stop him. Janeway leads him to Sick Bay where he more or less shuts down and just silently judges everyone. The Doctor, aware of Tuvix refusal to undergo the procedure, also refuses to do the procedure. However the procedure is relatively simple to perform. Janeway does the procedure herself, asking the Doctor to step aside. Tuvix is sat down on a bed and Janeway stares him in the eyes. She then splits him back into Tuvok and Neelix. Janeway welcomes the men back and then leaves Sick Bay with a look of self doubt and horror on her face, deeply shaken.

Here's the scene. It's a little edited (a couple moments cut and a weird sound effect added when Tuvix is killed) but you see the broadstrokes.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

The fact that it is still widely discussed even after so many years, proves is such a great episode with a great moral dilemma.

Whether they chose is the right choice or not, I can not say.

But from a story perspective, all I can say is that I didn't really like the character of Tuvix, too whiney and weird. While Neelix may not be everyone's favourite, Tuvok definitely was an excellent addition to the team. So for my enjoyment, they did make the right choice.

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

I love this conversation

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