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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

Dude, i was there.

[–] blkpws@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (18 children)

But what with the meat at market from good farms or meat from hunting wild animals? You just need to stop buying meat from those factories and big companies and buy on your local town or market, from trusted sources farms or hunted. Meat itself isn't the problem, the problem is how is the meat produced, and we consume too much meat right now, and we need to change our habits and eat much less and from those trusted sources. And not mega-factories like McDonalds and those do.

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[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So, most people are just terrible at making big changes from one day to the next, we're creatures who function on habits.

What are good steps to take, to gradually transition away from meat for whatever reason, be it ethical, environmental or both?

You could

  1. Start avoiding industrial meat from animals that pretty much suffer 100% of the time
  2. Cut out meat from large animals that have the most environmental impact
  3. Work your way down from number 2 until all you eat is poultry
  4. Cut out meat altogether

And so on and so forth. Maybe drop dairy next, because large animal, then work on eggs. Slowly but surely.

Any thoughts? I'm genuinely asking, because I'm very much someone who has a hard time with big changes in my everyday life.

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[–] nekahat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago
[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think we shoulf reduce meat production and make laws so millions of animals dont het abused every day and i aldo saw the videos but i just like meat so i dont think that everyone becoming a vegan would be a good solution. I of course 100% support if someone makes the decision themself. If a meat substitute is found that tastes like meat and solves meats flaws then i would happily switch.

[–] Toast@lemmy.film 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be happy if people would just proofread before submitting.

[–] TheBurlapBandit@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is lemmy not a thesis paper lmao

[–] max@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Still prefer not to suffer a stroke from reading a comment.

[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I just like meat" is a weird point to make I feel. From a moral standpoint, if you feel it is wrong, it shouldn't matter wether or not you like the meat (I too remember meat fondly from when I was still eating it). I'll twist your word into an extreme to illustrate my point, imagine reading this:

"I agree that raping children should be stopped, but I just like children, I don't think that every one should stop, we should just reduce how much we do it".

It probably sound like it's completely ridiculous, but for someone that believe that it is morally wrong to kill and eat animals, this is kinda how you sound.

I'm ok with people not being morally aligned with me, but when they are not consistent in their viewpoint, I can't help but think they are just rationalising their behavior to ease their mind.

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